Isn't that what I said? Or, isn't shifting manually for the driver the same
as an electronic device that shifts a manual transmission?

"Sir F. A. Rien" wrote:
> Ahhh, but your caveat is "traditional" there are other 'automatic
> transmissions' that 'shift' manually for the driver. To the operator it's
> "Automatic!"
>
> So things are -=not the same=- and it's you who doesn't have a clue!
>