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December 30th 07, 08:43 PM posted to sci.environment,rec.autos.driving,alt.politics.democrats
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Coping With The New CAFÉ Standards, leotard78spwhines again..
Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
> Eeyore at typed this:
> > Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
> >> Eeyore typed this:
> >>> Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote:
> >>>> Eeyore at typed this:
> >>>>> Kurt Lochner wrote:
> >>>>>>
AKA
sniveled ineptly:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I began to wonder what vehicle would get an
> >>>>>>> average of 35 mpg. Since I was at a Toyota dealership
> >>>>>>> and Toyota has been a leader in fuel efficient vehicles,
> >>>>>>> I started checking out the vehicles on the lot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll make a very simple statement: The Toyota Yaris D-4D is a
> >>>>> staggeringly good little car.... I have never driven another car
> >>>>> that could happily tootle along at 80-90mph, nip past obstructive
> >>>>> drivers in old-shape Merc CL500 coupes, and still take me 63 miles
> >>>>> on a gallon of diesel.
> >>>>>
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/?id=52
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OK that's a UK gallon but it's still 50.4 US mpg !
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Diesel engines are a large part of the answer. The USA has an
> >>>>> irrational fear of them though. Modern European diesel engine
> >>>>> design is making even SPORTY diesels possible. They have
> >>>>> exceptional torque which most drivers like too.
> >>>>
> >>>> How well do they operate at -30 degrees Fahrenheit?
> >>>
> >>> I have NO idea.
> >>
> >> That's rather important for people living in my area.
> >>
> >>
> >>> How well do YOU work at -30 F ( -34C) ?
> >>
> >> Not well, which is why I need a reliable car at that temperature.
> >> In the past, Diesels have not proven reliable in the Winter.
> >
> > I've never experienced such temps but the Swedes for example use block
> > warmers. I imagine you can have a fuel tank warmer too.
> >
> > Graham
>
> Why would I go to that problem and added energy expense/expenditure when I
> can just buy a reliable non-Diesel car?
What kind of engine oil works right from -34C ?
Graham
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