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Old November 1st 11, 07:25 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Mario Petrinovic
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Mario Petrinovic:
> Mario Petrinovic:
>> Mario Petrinovic:
>>> Mario Petrinovic:
>>>> GaryR:
>>>>> >Mario Petrinovic:
>>>>>> I just went to Lime Rock with Legends, and saw a lot of people
>>>>>>spinning. The difference between Damper and Centering Spring induces
>>>>>>those spins, so I would suggest to make those two the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> And here I have been thinking a spin is caused by too much speed, bad
>>>>> use of throttle, or wrong steering inputs!
>>>>
>>>> You can spin like that, or you can spin just turning into a
>>>> corner
>>>> at normal speed, because wrong FFB fools your senses into doing wrong
>>>> things.
>>>> BTW, I still didn't find time to test (I am too tired now,
>>>> coming
>>>> back from work), but from little test of Spring the previous day, it
>>>> could
>>>> very well be that the right setting for Spring on my system is 128%. If
>>>> this is the case, then this would mean that iRacing locked Spring also
>>>> at
>>>> 75%, because 128 x 0.75 = 96. We know that Damper was also locked at
>>>> 75%, but iRacing reverted it back to 100%.
>>>> This 75% lock only confused things, because with this lock the
>>>> right settings for my system should be 128/128/96 (because Centering
>>>> Spring wasn't locked at 75%), and this is far from the default
>>>> 100/100/100. I am looking forward in a few days to find out if this is
>>>> so.
>>>
>>> Ok, here it is what happened.
>>> It looks like Spring isn't locked at 75%. It looks like, for the
>>> most "realistic" feel Spring and Damper should be both at 100%.
>>> Centering
>>> Spring, while it worked well at 96% when Spring and Damper were 0/96, it
>>> doesn't work well at 96% when Spring and Damper are both at 96%. It does
>>> work well though at the setting I determined with Damper and Spring both
>>> at 0%, and this is 22% on my system. So, now I am using 100/100/22. I
>>> also matched the Overall with what I like, so now I have 118/100/100/22
>>> (Centering Spring unchecked, and everything else unchecked).
>>> Well, this is it, I tried everything, and I cannot do better than
>>> this. Now I will start to race, I hope it will be "truetful" to me when
>>> I
>>> start to work on car setups (which I will not do right now, first a
>>> little
>>> bit rookie racing, : )), which is the main reason why I tried to find
>>> the
>>> most "true" FFB settings in the first place, so that I can feel the best
>>> what is happening within the car.

>>
>> Actually, I still have something to do. I'll try different Spring
>> with 100/22 of Damper and Centering Spring.

>
> Ok, I did some testing. It turned out that Spring and Cenetring
> Spring should be the same. But, on my system it isn't 22%. I went lower,
> and
> now I am at 14% (it is too late over here, so I have enough for today),
> but it probably is 13%.
> It looks like Damper doesn't have to be at 100%. For now I am
> testing with 100%, but probably I will go back to 96% with it.


Ok, I am abandoning the idea of low Spring setting. I am back with
Spring and Damper at 100%. I tested all the low settings, and Centering
Spring is 15% (on my system) with Spring and Damper at 100%. I'll test
higher numbers as well (for now I tested Centering Spring 0-22%). I am using
Overall at 118%.

Mario

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