ZombyWoof > wrote in
:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:32:51 GMT, Joe >
wrote
> something wonderfully witty:
>
>>ZW, where'd you hear about FL re-licensing people? Last I heard it
>>would never happen because of the policital clout of all the older
>>drivers.
>>
> Happened sometime in the 90's they finally pulled my Grandma's
> license. Should have been done at least 5-years earlier. At least
my
> Dad realizes he can no longer effectively drive at night and
doesn't.

How'd they nab her to pull her license? There's no re-licensing
AFAIK, unless you're talking about renewing your license every however
many years. But now that you can do that by mail, nobody'd ever know
that they couldn't drive.

Hell, there are some people down in my parents' condo that can't even
see their keys but they still drive..


>>BTW, I see lots of people yakking on cell phones doing 90 (only
10mph
>>slower than 100) down I-75 here in Broward County. None of them
have
>>a clue.
>>
> Hell I've seen em yanking on a cell phone, smoking and drinking a
cup
> of coffee too. Must be driving with their prick or something.
>>
>>ZombyWoof > wrote in
m:
>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:07:48 GMT, "Wound Up" >
>>> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>>>
>>>>"Brent P" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> In article >, RichA
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> who think
>>>>>> 40mph can mix with 60mph without problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> On a limited access highway where lane discipline is practiced,
a
>>>>> wide speed variance is easy and safely delt with. Only in the
USA
>>>>> is this a problem, because lane discipline is practically
>>>>> non-existant in much of the nation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lane discipline is why a 911 and 2CV can be on the autobahn at
the
>>>>> same time.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, the concept of "Rechtfahren" (sp?), "drive right", even
though
>>>>a law, doesn't concern most people in the US. One reason said
>>>>autobahns are safer than US interstates is the German police take
>>>>this VERY seriously.
>>>>
>>>>I knew a German woman who was pulled over in the far left for
going
>>>>140kmh - 90mph - because prevailing traffic is about 160-180kmh in
>>>>that lane. Too slow at 90, move over, here's your expensive
ticket.
>>>> Makes complete sense. Also, people there (and in France, and
>>>>others) have to take a lengthy course, and actually know how to
>>>>drive a car, not just point and shoot, before they are permitted
on
>>>>the road.
>>>>
>>> Many fines in Germany, and other parts of Europe are income based,
>>> you do not want to be in the position of having a really good job
>>> and get a ticket. Their fines are designed to sting rather badly.
>>>
>>>>Driving is a privelege. If I were in the proper rank of
>>>>governmental authority for a week, I would compel the entire
nation
>>>>to begin this process. Don't pass? Don't drive. Sorry, too bad,
>>>>so sad. Carpool or take a bus until you do, or don't drive at
all.
>>>>I would have no sympathy or grandfather clauses. Why should there
>>>>be? Fewer (incompetent) drivers = fewer accidents that competent
>>>>drivers have to deal with. "Oh, I'm broke, I don't have time, I
got
>>>>five kids". I don't give a ****. You've got a lethal weapon.
And,
>>>>outlaw all cellphone use with $1000 fines and suspensions for the
>>>>third offense. The human mind only has a finite amount of
conscious
>>>>attention to devote to any give set of activities. Splitting it
>>>>further and further and putting less of it to the important task -
>>>>not talking on the ****ing phone - makes you dangerous. Period.
>>>>Basic psychology tells us this.
>>>>
>>> And I would be right behind you backing you up 100%. As a nation
on
>>> a whole compared to the majority of European drivers we really are
>>> incompetent. When Germans first began importing cars to the US
they
>>> could understand the need for cup holders. One of the reason many
>>> American drivers multi-process while driving is our speed limits
are
>>> too slow. At 100mph one is fully concentrated on driving and
would
>>> not be talking on a cell-phone, eating a Big Mac and slurp on a
Big
>>> Gulp all at the same time. However, since we are a nation of
lowest
>>> common denominator laws we will always have laws based on the
lowest
>>> skill set as opposed to the highest with no requirement for skills
>>> improvement. At least Florida has started re-licensing people
once
>>> they reach a certain age and are refusing to renew licenses to
those
>>> who can't maintain even our low ass skill set.
>>>
>>>>You want a body count from me from this ****? It's sickening.
Add
>>>>the people who have been maimed or paralyzed, and it's even
moreso.
>>>>Think about it a minute yourselves. Think about all the near
misses
>>>>you've had, maybe even today. The answer is clear - stiff
>>>>penalities, and tests that are actually difficult, and that
actually
>>>>test driving skill.
>>>>
>>> Better policing as well. Right now all the damn cops focus on is
>>> catching those who are exceeding the speed limit. In the area I
>>> live in the biggest problem is tailgaters. The two major
accidents
>>> I've been in during the ten years I have lived here have both been
>>> rear-enders with some idiot running into me both resulting in some
>>> pretty major damage. I bet easily 80% of the accidents here
locally
>>> are because of tailgating, but the cops never pull anyone over for
>>> it.
>>>
>>>>My sister-in-law shouldn't drive; she's absolutely freaking
>>>>dangerous. She's totally absent-minded, and has no clue how to
catch
>>>>a skid. She's wrecked more cars than I can count, and only hasn't
>>>>killed herself or others by the grace of God. Then she cries
>>>>(literally) that the car was to blame. I won't ride with her. And
>>>>I'd feel safer if people like her weren't out there, able to buy
and
>>>>drive cars with (in this context) frightening performance
>>>>potentials.
>>>>
>>> I think we all have two or three in our families that we could
point
>>> out that shouldn't be behind the wheel of a go-cart, let alone an
>>> automobile. More and more the manufacturers are focusing on
drivers
>>> like your SIL coming up with traction control systems, anti-lock
>>> brakes, stabilization control systems, and of course all of the
>>> safety equipment so that when they are in an accident Darwin
doesn't
>>> come into play and they are naturally selected out.
>>>
>>>>There are many kinds of idiots. And then there are many other,
more
>>>>dangerous kinds out there. Take a good number of 'em off the
>>>>****ing roads, I say.
>>>>
>>> Me too.
>