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Old September 20th 06, 11:55 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
Roy[_1_]
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Default No power, rough idle

I was going by prices from web sites and forums, it was actually $5.94 plus
tax from the dealer. That was cheaper than the other parts stores which were
around $7-8 but none of them had one in stock, not sure why they bother to
give you a price if they don't have one.
As for free testing, we don't have Autozone here (I keep seeing people refer
to them for free testing) and it is very hard to get anybody to do anything
to a car for less than $40 (even to check codes). After I try the new plug
wires I may see if the Saturn dealer will test it for me after I've spent
$100+ on parts there.
I replaced the PCV valve and hose. I put in new spark plugs (figured they
were due anyway and inexpensive). The plugs helped a little by getting rid
of the rough idle but it still has the miss and a little hesitation when I
give it some gas. I guess next is plug wires ($70, I priced them while I was
at the dealer).

Not sure what to do if the new wires don't do it but I guess I'll keep
following the ignition system unless somebody has a better idea.

"Doug Miller" > wrote in message
news
> In article >, "Roy" <crawroy
> @ nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>Thanks, after doing a little more searching I found there wasn't anybody
>>suggesting cleaning although here in Canada it's more like $15 for the
>>part
>>(still very affordable).

>
> Wow. That's kinda high. You buying that at the Saturn dealer? The going
> price
> at auto parts stores around here (Indianapolis) is about US$3.50-4.00,
> which
> is still under CDN$5. Have you tried WalMart or Canadian Tire?
>
>> If that doesn't do it I guess it's time to start
>>pulling wires and plugs.

>
> Most auto parts stores can test the ignition module for you, too, and the
> test
> is usually free.
>
>>I really hope it isn't the cat, it was replaced 3 years ago and I really
>>don't want to buy a new one yet.

>
> If the cat is only 3 years old, it's not likely to be causing trouble.
>
>>"Doug Miller" > wrote in message
om...
>>> In article >, "Roy"
>>> <crawroy
>>> @ nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>>98 SL1, 165,000km
>>>>I have rough idle down around 500-750RPM (it usually idles just over
>>>>1000RPM). Very little power. When I floor it in neutral the RPM gauge
>>>>goes
>>>>to 4200 and pulses.
>>>>Looking under the hood at lunch time and the PCV hose was cracked/split
>>>>and
>>>>flattened. I replaced the hose but that seemed to make it worse. I
>>>>remember
>>>>talk on here of cleaning the PCV vavle but the Haynes manual I have only
>>>>says what it does, no mention of cleaning.
>>>>My question is, what should I clean it with? compressed air, gasoline,
>>>>methyl hydrate...? Or should I just get a new one?
>>>
>>> Just get a new one -- it's only about five bucks, if that much. Hardly
>>> worth
>>> trying to clean out...
>>>
>>>>Does this sound like a dirty or defective PCV valve or should I continue
>>>>to
>>>>look for other causes?
>>>
>>> My guess is an ignition problem of some sort. Check the plugs; I'll bet
>>> they're not all firing. And *that* could be due to a bad plug, a bad
>>> plug
>>> wire, or a failed electronic ignition module.
>>>
>>> Another thing to check: make sure the exhaust system isn't plugged. A
>>> stopped-up catalytic converter can cause similar symptoms.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>>>
>>> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

>>
>>

>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.



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