On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 09:18:24 +0000, petergagg wrote:

> On 27/11/2010 07:40, Andrew MacPherson wrote:
>> [12 quoted lines suppressed]
> As a long time "proper" sim fan (mostly pc racing sims) I am very much
> enjoying GT5 on the PS3.
>
> You have to take it for what it is, eg: a console based racing game, and
> once accepted, simply enjoy what it does.
>
> Graphics are great, the premier car models are simply stunning, watching
> replays is quite literally like watching a replay of a real race. Photo
> realistic (almost) lighting, shadows, details, etc. (10 out of 10)
>
> Audio is also good with each car being sampled and surround sound gives
> good effects.(8/10)
>
> Car handling is perfectly fine considering this is a console game, cars
> rise and fall with acceleration, braking, etc, cars can be slid (power
> slides or pendulum turns when rallying, etc) car physics seem perfectly
> acceptable to me. Different models have different handling to suit.
> Rumbles through the controller help with feedback, but a controller is
> not as realistic as a wheel. (8/10)
>
> NB: I am using the standard PS3 controller with GT5, if racing on my pc
> I would of course be using a wheel and pedals, so that takes something
> away from the experience for me, and no matter how hard I try, my
> partner simply will not allow me to have a cockpit setup in the main
> lliving room, so it has to stay in the study with the pc! Maybe I'll
> move the PS3 into the study at some point.... BTW I've read on-line that
> using a wheel and pedals with GT5 is pretty good.
>
> Damage modelling is ok, but is only used on the premium model cars.
> Doesn't seem to affect the cars handling too much? (6/10)
>
> AI are ok, no worse or better than any other racing game / sim I have
> tried (eg; most of them). They do tend to stick to the racing line, they
> can crash into you, they sometimes have crashes amongst them selves.
> They sometimes do stupid things. But hey, thats racing and its also what
> humans do....(7/10)
>
> Car variety is good. The loudly proclaim over 1000 cars, but remember
> that often (eg: Nissan Skyline, etc) can have upwards of 20 different
> models for the same car, so in reality I estimate there are probably
> around a few hundred (which is still very good).Car handling varies with
> each car and there are a huge variety to choose from and once bought (or
> won) they can be tuned with parts, which do affect the handling, you can
> start out with a fairly basic car, and once you have spent some more (in
> game cash) and tuned the car to its max, you can end up with a race
> winning beast. (9/10)
>
> Tracks are good and there is a wide variety (Road, Tracks, Rally,
> Hillclimbs, etc). Oh, and it has the Ring. Track detail is good, with a
> godo feeling of the terrain, land rises and falls, off camber bends,
> etc. Oh, and it has the Ring. Track surfaces also affect handling (which
> is good) Try using a powerful rear wheel car on a dirt track, gravel or
> snow and you will slide a lot, which is as it should be. Oh, and it has
> the Ring. There are old Playstation favourite tracks, and some new ones
> too. Did I mention the Nurburgring? Its awesome....(9/10)
>
> Licenses are still here, which are a good way to learn the different
> techniques, cars handling and tracks. Great for noobs, but also
> challenging for hardcore racers. (8/10)
>
> Races are also good with a nice variety, rallying, time trials, hill
> climbs, road and track races, some short, some long (24 hour anyone?) As
> I mentioned in the AI section, they can make the racing interesting, but
> IMHO are no worse than a lot of other games / sims. (8/10)
>
> Multiplay includes on-line racing (pretty good so far, have only tried
> it a few times and it was fun) and there is also split screen option. (8/10)
>
> Overall I like it. I already had PS3 and I'm not sure I would buy one
> just to play GT5. But if you already have PS3 gt5 is a must have, it is
> the definitive Playstation game. If you are thinking of getting an Xbox
> 360 or a PS3, I'd go for the PS3, it has the built in Blu Ray player
> (great) and on-line play is free, plus I think there are more games to
> choose from on the PS3 (not sure though?).
>
> In closing, as a PS3 game I'd give GT5 around a 9/10). But as a
> simulator I'd give it less (around 8 or possibly 8.5/10)
>
> I know purist sim racers will probably disagree with my views, buts that
> what they are, my views only. I love proper racing sims, but I'm quite
> happy to have a blast on a console game too. Each to their own....
>
> 8-)
>
> Peter G (PJGTECH)
i have my logitech g25 wheel hooked up, andits so good on gt5, just plug it
in, feedback is phenominal, much better than rfactor

the real gt5 dissapointment is the track editor..