"aRKay" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Dad" > wrote:
>
>> "aRKay" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > "Dad" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> It might really be interesting to see that list of expenses,
>> >> here's
>> >> mine for the C5's and C6 listed as highest cost first.
>> >> 1998 C5 46k
>> >> gas
>> >> tires
>> >> BCM - not fun
>> >> oil
>> >> battery
>> >> 2004 C5 20k
>> >> gas
>> >> tires
>> >> oil - free
>> >> axle seal (RR)
>> >> 2005 C6 26k
>> >> gas
>> >> battery
>> >> oil - free
>> >> tires
>> >> hood strut
>> >> gas cap
>> >> rear hatch switch
>> >>
>> >> Actual out of warranty cost was for tires, a battery, and the
>> >> BCM.
>> >> GM/dealer did replace one set of run flats that cupped badly.
>> >> Cost
>> >> of
>> >> Corsa's not included.
>> >
>> > My 2001 6-Speed Coupe:
>> >
>> > - Right headlight motor replaced (grinding)
>> >
>> > - Two Delco AGM batteries replace by dealer. One failed at the
>> > airport
>> > drop off area and the police towed it to dealer. No warning it
>> > just
>> > crapped out.
>> >
>> > - Two alternators replaced as they could not charge the AGM
>> > battery.
>> >
>> > - At 11K miles Engine using way too much oil (1 quart ever 500
>> > miles)
>> > and was in the queue for a ring replacement when I got in a
>> > 10-inch
>> > in
>> > five minute rain storm and hydro locked the engine. The
>> > insurance
>> > company replaced the whole engine with a new ($14K) 2002 engine
>> > that
>> > came with the factory ring fix. Never use any oil with the new
>> > engine.
>> >
>> > - Radio display failed and was replaced by the dealer
>> >
>> > - Drive door speaker replaced (rattling and static)
>> >
>> > - Emergency Flasher failed causing turn signal problems
>> >
>> > - Rocking driver seat repaired
>> >
>> > - Left headlight motor replaced (grinding)
>> >
>> > - Numerous Pull Key and Wait ten minute error messages. Turned
>> > out
>> > to be
>> > a bad key that was replaced and solved the problem
>> >
>> > - Trashed the Delco AGM when it died and replaced it with Wall
>> > Mart
>> > Everlast. No problems at all with the Everlast
>> >
>> > - Daytime Running Light (Lamps) had to replace more than once
>> > and
>> > it
>> > was not easy/
>> >
>> > - AC compressor and belt pulley.
>> >
>> > - Left headlight motor replaced (grinding) again 2nd time
>> >
>> > - Key fob quit and was replaced.
>> >
>> > - Passenger side AC temp control replaced- it never really worked
>> >
>> > - Had to have the passenger seat repaired due to cracks
>> >
>> > - Two wheel pressure sensors failed and required replacement
>> >
>> > - The dumb column lock did its thing in my garage and the wrecker
>> > service refused to tow the vehicle. The dealer's guy had to come
>> > to
>> > my
>> > home to unlock and replace the motor. Two weeks before it was in
>> > for
>> > the lame GM recall the only reprogrammed the computer to shut off
>> > the
>> > fuel flow.
>> >
>> > - Passenger side power window motor failed and had to be replaced
>> >
>> > - Tires but they were replaced due to normal wear
>> >
>> > - Windshield wiper blades (several times)
>> >
>> > - Numerous Service Anti Lock Brakes and Active Handling errors.
>> > All
>> > the
>> > dealer ever did was to reset the codes. The never really fixed
>> > the
>> > problem. When I get the warning now I reset the codes.
>> >
>> > - The hand brake never really worked and needs to be replaced to
>> > pass
>> > the next state safety inspection.
>> >
>> > - CD Disc carrier stuck in the 12-Disc CD player. Fixed by
>> > pulling
>> > the
>> > power to reset.
>> >
>> > This is all I can think of at this time.
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to write a fair feed back, strange how
>> different cars we know are built in the same place by the same
>> people
>> can perform so differently. I might add that they reprogrammed the
>> '98
>> to eliminate the column lock, never said anything to me, just did
>> it.
>
> Did your 98 have an automatic or 6-speed. The recall fixed the
> vehicles
> with automatics by removing the column lock plate. They could not
> do
> this to 6-speed vehicles as they do not have the transmission lock.
> All
> they did to mine was reprogram it to shut off the fuel if the column
> lock failed.
>
> aRKay
I had the 4 speed automatic and they never opened the dash, just
reprogrammed it to stop the locking action. One day listening to
people on here complain about the lock failing I went out to the
garage and tried to turn the steering wheel, no lock. Ask them about
it and they told me that they had changed the program and my front
seat cover on the free oil change they offered to get me to come back
in long after I bought the car. In the past I seldom would return a
car to the dealer for anything, my distrust kept telling me they
promoted some failures to generate income. My seat cover was not worn
or an issue to me and I never noticed the change as it has a zipper to
make it quick. Been dealing in the same dealership since 1956 and 3
different owners with 10,000,000 different service managers, last 2
were women, now have an old time employee that I've always gotten
along with.
After that I learned that there is a site that allows you to enter
your serial number and check what has been done on your GM car. You'd
be surprised what they change, recalibrate, and update without you
ever being aware. Haven't used it in some time but
http://tis2web.service.gm.com should get you there. Last time I
checked they seem preoccupied with new calibrations to minimize the
P0604 code, Fuel Level Sensor /Control Module Random Access Memory,
P0336 Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor A Performance, and P2068 Fuel
Level Sensor 2 Circuit High Voltage on the C6.
Hope that helps.........