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Old March 20th 07, 11:47 PM posted to rec.autos.4x4
Fuller Rath
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Default Man made Global warming is a lie!

I guess "peer reviewed" means nothing to cybernuts


"Ron Hinds" > wrote in message ...
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: ".boB" > wrote in message
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: > Fuller Rath wrote:
: >> We're still waiting for you to post some peer reviewed scientific
: >> rebuttals to global warming. P.S. Reich wing talking points
: >> don't count.
: >>
: >
: > Is there anything anyone could say, post, or point out that could
: > enlighten your position? No, of course not. You know everything there is
: > to know about this subject, and you refuse to let new information spoil
: > that position.
: > I could pull out the list of sources and type them all in here for
: > you. I could go to each web site and link it for you. Why bother?
: > You'll either refuse to read them, or refuse to believe them. Use google
: > and do your own research. I refuse to waste that much time on a troll.
: > And I bet you think it's all GW's fault, too.
: >
: > --
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: Hurricanes and Global Warming: Interview with Meteorologist Dr. William Gray
: by James K. Glassman (September 12, 2005)
:
: Meteorologist Dr. William Gray may be the world's most famous hurricane
: expert. More than two decades ago, as professor of atmospheric science and
: head of the Tropical Meteorology Project at Colorado State University, he
: pioneered the science of hurricane forecasting. Each December, six months
: before the start of hurricane season, the now 75-year-old Gray and his team
: issue a long-range prediction of the number of major tropical storms that
: will arise in the Atlantic Ocean basin, as well as the number of hurricanes
: (with sustained winds of 74 miles per hour or more) and intense hurricanes
: (with winds of at least 111 mph). This year, Gray expects more activity,
: with 15 named storms, including 8 hurricanes. Four of them, he says, will be
: intense.
:
: James Glassman: Dr. Gray, in the September issue of Discover Magazine, there's
: a remarkable interview with you. You're called the world's most famous
: hurricane.
:
: Dr. William Gray: Well that - you have to talk to my critics about that. I
: don't think they would agree with you.
:
: Glassman: Well you certainly.
:
: Gray: I've been around a long time, yes. I've been around studying
: hurricanes over 50 years now, I'm an old guy. Yes.
:
: Glassman: Well, you're in the hurricane forecasting business among other
: things?
:
: Gray: Well, we're in the seasonal hurricane forecasting business, and
: monthly. We don't do the short range, you know, one to two day crucial
: forecasts. That can only be done by one group at the National Hurricane
: Center. But we certainly do a lot of forecasting for different parts of the
: globe and the hurricane from a seasonal, monthly point of view. Yes.
:
: Glassman: And from a seasonal, monthly point of view, you had been
: predicting a growing number of hurricanes. Now, my question is in the wake
: of Katrina and some of the statements that we've heard immediately
: afterwards by advocates of the global warming theory - is global warming
: behind this increase in hurricanes?
:
: Gray: I am very confident that it's not. I mean we have had global warming.
: That's not a question. The globe has warmed the last 30 years, and the last
: 10 years in particular. And we've had, at least the last 10 years, we've had
: a pick up in the Atlantic basin major storms. But in the earlier period, if
: we go back from 1970 through the middle '90s, that 25 year period - even
: though the globe was warming slightly, the number of major storms was down,
: quite a bit down.
:
: Now, another feature of this is that the Atlantic operates differently. The
: other global storm basins, the Atlantic only has about 12 percent of the
: global storms. And in the other basins, the last 10 years - even though the
: Atlantic major storm activity has gone up greatly the last 10 years. In the
: other global basins, it's slightly gone down. You know, both frequency and
: strength of storms have not changed in these other basins. If anything, they've
: slightly gone down. So if this was a global warming thing, you would think,
: "Well gee, all of the basins should be responding much the same."
:
: Glassman: You're familiar with what your colleagues believe. Do you think
: many hurricane experts would take a different point of view, and would say,
: "Oh, it's global warming that's causing hurricanes?"
:
: Gray: No. All my colleagues that have been around a long time - I think if
: you go to ask the last four or five directors of the national hurricane
: center - we all don't think this is human-induced global warming. And, the
: people that say that it is are usually those that know very little about
: hurricanes. I mean, there's almost an equation you can write the degree to
: which you believe global warming is causing major hurricanes to increase is
: inversely proportional to your knowledge about these storms.
:
: Now there's a few modelers around who know something about storms, but they
: would like to have the possibility open that global warming will make for
: more and intense storms because there's a lot of money to be made on this.
: You know, when governments step in and are saying this - particularly when
: the Clinton administration was in - and our Vice President Gore was involved
: with things there, they were pushing this a lot. You know, most of
: meteorological research is funded by the federal government. And boy, if you
: want to get federal funding, you better not come out and say human-induced
: global warming is a hoax because you stand the chance of not getting funded.
:
: Glassman: We thank you very, very much for this interview. Thank you, Dr.
: Gray.
:
: Gray: Well thank you for asking me.
:
: I am convinced myself that in 15 or 20 years, we're going to look back on
: this and see how grossly exaggerated it all was. The humans are not that
: powerful. These greenhouse gases, although they are building up, they cannot
: cause the type of warming these models say - two to five degrees centigrade
: with a doubling of the greenhouse gases.
:
: Glassman: Well thank you very much for giving us your time.
:
: First appeared in Tech Central Station.
:
: http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4403
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