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Old March 21st 07, 04:36 AM posted to rec.autos.4x4
Ron Hinds
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Default Man made Global warming is a lie!

"Fuller Rath" > wrote in message
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>I guess "peer reviewed" means nothing to cybernuts


Apparently not, since you haven't posted anything to support your point of
view.

> "Ron Hinds" > wrote in message
> ...
> :
> : ".boB" > wrote in message
> : . com...
> : > Fuller Rath wrote:
> : >> We're still waiting for you to post some peer reviewed scientific
> : >> rebuttals to global warming. P.S. Reich wing talking points
> : >> don't count.
> : >>
> : >
> : > Is there anything anyone could say, post, or point out that could
> : > enlighten your position? No, of course not. You know everything
> there is
> : > to know about this subject, and you refuse to let new information
> spoil
> : > that position.
> : > I could pull out the list of sources and type them all in here for
> : > you. I could go to each web site and link it for you. Why bother?
> : > You'll either refuse to read them, or refuse to believe them. Use
> google
> : > and do your own research. I refuse to waste that much time on a
> troll.
> : > And I bet you think it's all GW's fault, too.
> : >
> : > --
> : > .boB
> : > 2006 FXDI hot rod
> : > 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
> : > 1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
> : > 1965 FFR Cobra - 427W EFI, Damn Fast.
> :
> : Hurricanes and Global Warming: Interview with Meteorologist Dr. William
> Gray
> : by James K. Glassman (September 12, 2005)
> :
> : Meteorologist Dr. William Gray may be the world's most famous hurricane
> : expert. More than two decades ago, as professor of atmospheric science
> and
> : head of the Tropical Meteorology Project at Colorado State University,
> he
> : pioneered the science of hurricane forecasting. Each December, six
> months
> : before the start of hurricane season, the now 75-year-old Gray and his
> team
> : issue a long-range prediction of the number of major tropical storms
> that
> : will arise in the Atlantic Ocean basin, as well as the number of
> hurricanes
> : (with sustained winds of 74 miles per hour or more) and intense
> hurricanes
> : (with winds of at least 111 mph). This year, Gray expects more activity,
> : with 15 named storms, including 8 hurricanes. Four of them, he says,
> will be
> : intense.
> :
> : James Glassman: Dr. Gray, in the September issue of Discover Magazine,
> there's
> : a remarkable interview with you. You're called the world's most famous
> : hurricane.
> :
> : Dr. William Gray: Well that - you have to talk to my critics about that.
> I
> : don't think they would agree with you.
> :
> : Glassman: Well you certainly.
> :
> : Gray: I've been around a long time, yes. I've been around studying
> : hurricanes over 50 years now, I'm an old guy. Yes.
> :
> : Glassman: Well, you're in the hurricane forecasting business among other
> : things?
> :
> : Gray: Well, we're in the seasonal hurricane forecasting business, and
> : monthly. We don't do the short range, you know, one to two day crucial
> : forecasts. That can only be done by one group at the National Hurricane
> : Center. But we certainly do a lot of forecasting for different parts of
> the
> : globe and the hurricane from a seasonal, monthly point of view. Yes.
> :
> : Glassman: And from a seasonal, monthly point of view, you had been
> : predicting a growing number of hurricanes. Now, my question is in the
> wake
> : of Katrina and some of the statements that we've heard immediately
> : afterwards by advocates of the global warming theory - is global warming
> : behind this increase in hurricanes?
> :
> : Gray: I am very confident that it's not. I mean we have had global
> warming.
> : That's not a question. The globe has warmed the last 30 years, and the
> last
> : 10 years in particular. And we've had, at least the last 10 years, we've
> had
> : a pick up in the Atlantic basin major storms. But in the earlier period,
> if
> : we go back from 1970 through the middle '90s, that 25 year period - even
> : though the globe was warming slightly, the number of major storms was
> down,
> : quite a bit down.
> :
> : Now, another feature of this is that the Atlantic operates differently.
> The
> : other global storm basins, the Atlantic only has about 12 percent of the
> : global storms. And in the other basins, the last 10 years - even though
> the
> : Atlantic major storm activity has gone up greatly the last 10 years. In
> the
> : other global basins, it's slightly gone down. You know, both frequency
> and
> : strength of storms have not changed in these other basins. If anything,
> they've
> : slightly gone down. So if this was a global warming thing, you would
> think,
> : "Well gee, all of the basins should be responding much the same."
> :
> : Glassman: You're familiar with what your colleagues believe. Do you
> think
> : many hurricane experts would take a different point of view, and would
> say,
> : "Oh, it's global warming that's causing hurricanes?"
> :
> : Gray: No. All my colleagues that have been around a long time - I think
> if
> : you go to ask the last four or five directors of the national hurricane
> : center - we all don't think this is human-induced global warming. And,
> the
> : people that say that it is are usually those that know very little about
> : hurricanes. I mean, there's almost an equation you can write the degree
> to
> : which you believe global warming is causing major hurricanes to increase
> is
> : inversely proportional to your knowledge about these storms.
> :
> : Now there's a few modelers around who know something about storms, but
> they
> : would like to have the possibility open that global warming will make
> for
> : more and intense storms because there's a lot of money to be made on
> this.
> : You know, when governments step in and are saying this - particularly
> when
> : the Clinton administration was in - and our Vice President Gore was
> involved
> : with things there, they were pushing this a lot. You know, most of
> : meteorological research is funded by the federal government. And boy, if
> you
> : want to get federal funding, you better not come out and say
> human-induced
> : global warming is a hoax because you stand the chance of not getting
> funded.
> :
> : Glassman: We thank you very, very much for this interview. Thank you,
> Dr.
> : Gray.
> :
> : Gray: Well thank you for asking me.
> :
> : I am convinced myself that in 15 or 20 years, we're going to look back
> on
> : this and see how grossly exaggerated it all was. The humans are not that
> : powerful. These greenhouse gases, although they are building up, they
> cannot
> : cause the type of warming these models say - two to five degrees
> centigrade
> : with a doubling of the greenhouse gases.
> :
> : Glassman: Well thank you very much for giving us your time.
> :
> : First appeared in Tech Central Station.
> :
> : http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4403
> :
> :
> :
> :
>
>



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