Pretty simple Yes or No, you bought a car, would you buy it again?
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Unfortunately, your logic says if you paid MORE it MUST be better, which
is a fallacy all by itself. So in your world if it costs less it must be
inferior. In reality, I see a lot more advertising hype, than car when
it comes to Porsche, but hey, believe what you will.


Lawrence Lugar wrote:
> state the publication, date, page, etc of that customer satisfaction
> survey - to have some credibility.
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> i'd like to see the variables they use.
> but keep in mind, it's made for the masses in mind.
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> that's like saying a ferrari is inferior to corvette because the masses
> can't afford one, it's too expensive.
> since corvette is more affordable, it ranks higher in this 'survery' - that
> logic, to some extent is bs
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> corvette is good, i'm not taking anything away from it...but it's like a
> hershey chocolate bar.
> porsche is arguably better...albeit, at a premium price...it'd be like an
> imported swiss or italian chocolate bar.
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> "Bob I" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Humm, guess you are one of those "believers". Considering the 911 came in
>> 5th in the satisfaction survey, it was below the Honda S2000, Mazda MX-5
>> Miata and Mini Cooper S. And I'll give you one guess as to what car topped
>> the list. By the way 20mpg is dismal. Reliable? I suppose as long as you
>> give it back to the dealer every 30k miles to have the belts and other
>> flapping pieces replaced. And a while a sports car isn't a station wagon,
>> it still should enough room to pack some bags and souvenirs for a vacation
>> or outing. So basically you desire it even if it's not as good at doing
>> anything as well as a Corvette. Spare change? I suppose if you are
>> intimating that if money is no object, well a Porsche would be the last
>> thing I would consider ****ing it away on.
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>> Lawrence Lugar wrote:
>>> you're right - that's why the Vette is dubbed america's sportscar,
>>> because everything considered...it Is a great value for performance, good
>>> mpg, truck space, relatively high on reliability.
>>>
>>>
>>> but if you have change to spare, the 911 Turbo is ever soooo, sooo
>>> lovely.
>>>
>>> by the way, the 911 Turbo get's an avg. of 20mpg (i believe) and It's
>>> very reliable(german).
>>> it's a sportscar, you don't need large backseats and truckspace anyways
>>> (it's not a station wagon)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if you drive both for a week, in the street and track...i can almost
>>> guarantee you although the Vette is great, the 911 (preferably the Turbo
>>> model) will merge with your soul like no other car, or woman, can
>>>
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>>> "Bob I" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> And what is the criteria for supercar? As for power to weight, the
>>>> regular 'vette matches the the 911. Top speed, same. Balance? The 'vett
>>>> is better balanced AND has the engine mid-mounted instead of hanging
>>>> off the rear end of the differential. And it doesen't come with all the
>>>> other compromises like no trunk to speak of, silly little seats in the
>>>> package compartment, gas guzzler fuel mileage, extremely intrusive
>>>> maintenance schedule. and on an on. Stand where you will, it doesn't
>>>> change reality.
>>>>
>>>> Lawrence Lugar wrote:
>>>>> if it's the 'vette...it's the c6, not the zo6, that's best suited for a
>>>>> daily driver
>>>>>
>>>>> but even then, there's a reason the 911 Turbo is known for being a
>>>>> supercar for everyday
>>>>> ...so my vote still stands, firmly
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Bob I" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Unfortunately you have way too many compromises for it to be used as a
>>>>>> daily driver so the 'vette gets the nod once again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lawrence Lugar wrote:
>>>>>>> the best supercar for the street/everyday life...is by far, the 911
>>>>>>> Turbo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ferrari's and lambo's, even the z06 is best at home on a
>>>>>>> track...driving it in street conditions is like walking a wildcat on
>>>>>>> a leash in the park
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "pj" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Lawrence Lugar wrote:
>>>>>>>>> a mid-engine vette won't decrease weight, nor increase 0-60 time
>>>>>>>>> it says so in the article....if anything, it'll just add cost for
>>>>>>>>> the sake of being 'exotic'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i think it was the latest isssue of Road and Track. (forgot which
>>>>>>>>> magazine specifically, i subscribe to many)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pure race, track cars should be rear-wheel drive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All is not race/track in this market. Strap on a 914-6 or Lotus and
>>>>>>>> give a 'middie' a try in a wide variety of driving situations. (If
>>>>>>>> yhou have more money than I -- a lot more -- go Italian) Putting
>>>>>>>> your fanny near the CG with very low polar moment yields a lot of
>>>>>>>> pure joy in road sport. Don't judge by something like the MR2 or
>>>>>>>> Fiero or some race cars where the engine's center of mass is quite
>>>>>>>> high.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "ACAR" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 25, 5:53 pm, "name" > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> i've read about the mid-engine vette in a magazine...i've
>>>>>>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>>>>>> considered the pros/cons...and i say, corvette should stick with
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> front-engine design placement
>>>>>>>>>> If mid-engined is the way Corvette has to go in order to shed
>>>>>>>>>> weight -
>>>>>>>>>> then so be it.
>>>>>>>>>> Ever increasing HP is gonna send insurance rates even higher.
>>>>>>>>>> Corvette
>>>>>>>>>> has to find another way to boost performance.
>>>>>>>>>> A mid-engined platform should also allow for an AWD option. I'd
>>>>>>>>>> certainly go for that!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Traditionalists will have the new Camaro by the time the C7 comes
>>>>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While fun to drive, mid-engine layouts (I speak to less expensive
>>>>>>>> criters that I've owned: MR2, Lotus, Porsche, & Fiero) have poor
>>>>>>>> use of interior volume. Storage, for a weekend trip is laughable.
>>>>>>>> Any production Corvette has to carry golf clubs... period.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Middies are a nightmare when it comes to maintenance
>>>>>>>> accessibility --
>>>>>>>> the flat rate manual hours, for what we think of as simple tasks,
>>>>>>>> are sky high. Plumbing for cooling and a/c add weight and cost.
>>>>>>>> Engine layout, to keep vertical center of mass low, is a challenge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The horsepower vs. insurance rate scare argument has been around
>>>>>>>> since the first Chrysler 300 -- circa 1950s -- and it doesn't prove
>>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My Corvette insurance rates have dropped even though HP has
>>>>>>>> increased. Drunks, immature drivers and racing exposure all raise
>>>>>>>> prices. My '02 costs less than does my '89 for all elements of the
>>>>>>>> policy including comprehensive. The liability and med coverages are
>>>>>>>> much lower on the '02 -- the car is safer! This year's bill is less
>>>>>>>> than what I paid in 2005. (the result of placing less importance on
>>>>>>>> ZIP code and more on a driver's track record.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> pj
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