I sure didn't get taken for a ride by Simbin, I played GTR for 6 straight
months, I barely played rFactor for 6 days before it became boring. I have
great hope for modders, but what does that have to do with how good rFactor
is right now.
As for your proper simmer comments they are laughable, have a look around
the net and see where most of the world top simmers are....GTR. Some are
still running 2003, and I will bet there will be plenty running GTL, a hell
of a lot more than will be running rFactor.

Chad


"Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
...
> Well, there is no doubt that real life tracks and cars have a definate
> novelty value. GPL is an excellent example - it conveyed the awesome
> tracks
> and cars of the day brilliantly. It was also, more importantly, a complete
> game and in no way alpha or beta code.
>
> As far as GTL and GTR2 goes, first of all Simbin took us all for a
> ride.
> Once bitten........................
>
> Secondly, the novelty of real life stuff soon disappears and all that
> remains is either a great simming experience or an unsatisfying,
> frustrating
> experience eg. GTR. rFactor has plenty to keep me going as it is for at
> least 6 months, but the reality is that in the next 6 months there will be
> a
> ton of tracks and mods relesed for it. Even taking my dislike for Simbin
> out
> of the equation, I see no reason to fork out for GTL or GTR2 when rFactor
> will no doubt dish up the same and in a proven format as well. It just
> seems
> like a waste of money to me unless the cars in GTL hold a VERY special
> place
> in your heart.
>
> The above is the attitude of someone only interested in online league
> racing ie a proper simmer! LOL
>
>
>
> "Chad Rogers" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I would argue that point for ever. I eagerly am waiting for GTL and GTR2,
>>I bought rFactor on the first day and stopped playing it weeks ago. I
>>just
>>can't get into the "fake" cars and tracks( I know there are 2 tracks out
>>there and the 3000 mod). GTR as well as GTL has 25 times the content and
>>IMHO feels much more like "real" racing to me. Just one man's opinion and
>>I am not taking sides, I support those that support sim racing and ISI
>>obviously does that. Just not my cup of tea with rFactor.
>>
>> Chad
>>
>>
>> "DJRJR" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I'm surprised anyone is even interested in GTL or GTR2 - they are no
>>>> more than mods for rFactor and not even as good!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "tango" > wrote in message
>>>> 0...
>>>>> its official, gtr2 is in development )
>>>>> http://www.blimeygames.com/games.php
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's becoming another EA sports thing for ps2, they put out a new game
>>> every year just to sell more games.. Why not make an update to the old
>>> one and get more people to buy it that way..
>>>
>>
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