state the publication, date, page, etc of that customer satisfaction
survey - to have some credibility.

i'd like to see the variables they use.
but keep in mind, it's made for the masses in mind.

that's like saying a ferrari is inferior to corvette because the masses
can't afford one, it's too expensive.
since corvette is more affordable, it ranks higher in this 'survery' - that
logic, to some extent is bs

corvette is good, i'm not taking anything away from it...but it's like a
hershey chocolate bar.
porsche is arguably better...albeit, at a premium price...it'd be like an
imported swiss or italian chocolate bar.





"Bob I" > wrote in message
...
> Humm, guess you are one of those "believers". Considering the 911 came in
> 5th in the satisfaction survey, it was below the Honda S2000, Mazda MX-5
> Miata and Mini Cooper S. And I'll give you one guess as to what car topped
> the list. By the way 20mpg is dismal. Reliable? I suppose as long as you
> give it back to the dealer every 30k miles to have the belts and other
> flapping pieces replaced. And a while a sports car isn't a station wagon,
> it still should enough room to pack some bags and souvenirs for a vacation
> or outing. So basically you desire it even if it's not as good at doing
> anything as well as a Corvette. Spare change? I suppose if you are
> intimating that if money is no object, well a Porsche would be the last
> thing I would consider ****ing it away on.
>
>
>
> Lawrence Lugar wrote:
>> you're right - that's why the Vette is dubbed america's sportscar,
>> because everything considered...it Is a great value for performance, good
>> mpg, truck space, relatively high on reliability.
>>
>>
>> but if you have change to spare, the 911 Turbo is ever soooo, sooo
>> lovely.
>>
>> by the way, the 911 Turbo get's an avg. of 20mpg (i believe) and It's
>> very reliable(german).
>> it's a sportscar, you don't need large backseats and truckspace anyways
>> (it's not a station wagon)
>>
>>
>>
>> if you drive both for a week, in the street and track...i can almost
>> guarantee you although the Vette is great, the 911 (preferably the Turbo
>> model) will merge with your soul like no other car, or woman, can
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bob I" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> And what is the criteria for supercar? As for power to weight, the
>>> regular 'vette matches the the 911. Top speed, same. Balance? The 'vett
>>> is better balanced AND has the engine mid-mounted instead of hanging
>>> off the rear end of the differential. And it doesen't come with all the
>>> other compromises like no trunk to speak of, silly little seats in the
>>> package compartment, gas guzzler fuel mileage, extremely intrusive
>>> maintenance schedule. and on an on. Stand where you will, it doesn't
>>> change reality.
>>>
>>> Lawrence Lugar wrote:
>>>> if it's the 'vette...it's the c6, not the zo6, that's best suited for a
>>>> daily driver
>>>>
>>>> but even then, there's a reason the 911 Turbo is known for being a
>>>> supercar for everyday
>>>> ...so my vote still stands, firmly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bob I" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Unfortunately you have way too many compromises for it to be used as a
>>>>> daily driver so the 'vette gets the nod once again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lawrence Lugar wrote:
>>>>>> the best supercar for the street/everyday life...is by far, the 911
>>>>>> Turbo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ferrari's and lambo's, even the z06 is best at home on a
>>>>>> track...driving it in street conditions is like walking a wildcat on
>>>>>> a leash in the park
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "pj" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Lawrence Lugar wrote:
>>>>>>>> a mid-engine vette won't decrease weight, nor increase 0-60 time
>>>>>>>> it says so in the article....if anything, it'll just add cost for
>>>>>>>> the sake of being 'exotic'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i think it was the latest isssue of Road and Track. (forgot which
>>>>>>>> magazine specifically, i subscribe to many)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pure race, track cars should be rear-wheel drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All is not race/track in this market. Strap on a 914-6 or Lotus and
>>>>>>> give a 'middie' a try in a wide variety of driving situations. (If
>>>>>>> yhou have more money than I -- a lot more -- go Italian) Putting
>>>>>>> your fanny near the CG with very low polar moment yields a lot of
>>>>>>> pure joy in road sport. Don't judge by something like the MR2 or
>>>>>>> Fiero or some race cars where the engine's center of mass is quite
>>>>>>> high.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "ACAR" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ups.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 25, 5:53 pm, "name" > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> i've read about the mid-engine vette in a magazine...i've
>>>>>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>>>>> considered the pros/cons...and i say, corvette should stick with
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> front-engine design placement
>>>>>>>>> If mid-engined is the way Corvette has to go in order to shed
>>>>>>>>> weight -
>>>>>>>>> then so be it.
>>>>>>>>> Ever increasing HP is gonna send insurance rates even higher.
>>>>>>>>> Corvette
>>>>>>>>> has to find another way to boost performance.
>>>>>>>>> A mid-engined platform should also allow for an AWD option. I'd
>>>>>>>>> certainly go for that!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Traditionalists will have the new Camaro by the time the C7 comes
>>>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While fun to drive, mid-engine layouts (I speak to less expensive
>>>>>>> criters that I've owned: MR2, Lotus, Porsche, & Fiero) have poor
>>>>>>> use of interior volume. Storage, for a weekend trip is laughable.
>>>>>>> Any production Corvette has to carry golf clubs... period.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Middies are a nightmare when it comes to maintenance
>>>>>>> accessibility --
>>>>>>> the flat rate manual hours, for what we think of as simple tasks,
>>>>>>> are sky high. Plumbing for cooling and a/c add weight and cost.
>>>>>>> Engine layout, to keep vertical center of mass low, is a challenge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The horsepower vs. insurance rate scare argument has been around
>>>>>>> since the first Chrysler 300 -- circa 1950s -- and it doesn't prove
>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Corvette insurance rates have dropped even though HP has
>>>>>>> increased. Drunks, immature drivers and racing exposure all raise
>>>>>>> prices. My '02 costs less than does my '89 for all elements of the
>>>>>>> policy including comprehensive. The liability and med coverages are
>>>>>>> much lower on the '02 -- the car is safer! This year's bill is less
>>>>>>> than what I paid in 2005. (the result of placing less importance on
>>>>>>> ZIP code and more on a driver's track record.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> pj
>>