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Old April 11th 11, 09:39 AM posted to alt.autos.bmw,alt.autos.audi
AD[_2_]
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Default What I want vs. what the reality could support

On Apr 8, 1:26*pm, Zathras >
wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:55:58 -0700 (PDT), AD > wrote:
> >On Apr 7, 7:25 pm, Zathras >
> >wrote:
> >> On 7 Apr 2011 10:44:24 -0400, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

>
> >> >In article >,
> >> >Zathras > wrote:
> >> >>On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:27:42 -0400, D. LaCourse >
> >> >>wrote:

>
> >> >>> The 335D has got plenty of ooomph with tons of torque.
> >> >>>Put four good snow tires on it and it will survive very nicely in the
> >> >>>snowbelt states.

>
> >> >>You *are* joking?! My 325d is the only car I've ever driven that is
> >> >>capable of failing to move off *downhill* in snow! Yes, if you can get
> >> >>it going, it handles impeccably in snow but stopping and starting in
> >> >>snow often requires divine intervention in these things.

>
> >> >You're talking about two totally different cars here.

>
> >> What's different apart from the extra turbo, software tweaks and
> >> compulsory auto box? I'd be surprised if a 335D would perform hugely
> >> better than my manual car on snow covered roads.

>
> >Wheelspin might be easier to induce on ice in 335d :^)

>
> That's an interesting one - the peak torque figure in a 325d arrives
> at a lowly 1300rpm whereas on the 335d it comes in at 1750rpm. The
> actual peak torque figures are probably irrelevant on ice but what it
> means on my car is that if your foot is on the accelerator/gas pedal
> at all then you're most likely putting peak torque out the back axle.
>
> Even in the dry, I need good tyres in good condition to avoid
> occasional wheel slip away from junctions even on the factory 255
> section Michelins. It would not surprise me if the auto 335d with it's
> slipping clutches and bands were to be actually easier to get off the
> mark without wheel spin. Comparing to a pals 325d auto, his back tyres
> last longer than mine but his car takes off at much higher revs than I
> let mine normally do.


If I were in a market for a car lesser than M3 I would've been
appalled by the lack of a limited slip option on 3xx series.
I think that was not offered since E36
heck, even RX-8 manual has LSD. It's not even an option.
You slash $900 off the auto and mazda graciously puts the money into
the back of a stick shift car.
In my used A4 vs used 3xx decision A4 might not have won as easily
if limited slip diff was present on E46. I guess few cusomers
care enough (or know what a limited slip diff is), hence the chances
of that
surfacing in E90 are slim to none.

>
> >Saw a 335d at a tire shop when switching to summer shoes this morning.
> >Not sure if it was an auto or a euro car with a stick though.

>
> IFAIK, they are only available as automatics *:-( *I'm not old enough
> (I tell myself) *to want that yet. :-) *Even 330d cars with manual are
> not super common in the UK. That's why I ended up with a 325d. It's
> not so bad though as I still get that magnificent I6 and a manual box
> to have the most fun with it.


I hear ya. Most of the bmw diesels in here are from their homeland,
where, I assume,
manual IS an option.

I'm in the only country in the world where domestic market cars are
worse than
those exported. Hmm, US of A might be the other of the very few
exceptions.
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