Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stem onnumber 5 and seal
 

I am very challenged - although I do try google to resolve my ignorance -
when it comes to cars and how they work.

I have received my A6 back from the dealer as it was asking for oil, from
full, after 500 miles cruising on the motorway at a steady 80/85 mph.

Still under warranty, 3.2 FSI V6, nearly 3 yrs old, 40K on the clock and
fully serviced they have replaced and removed all plugs, fitted a new valve
stem and seal on number 5 - whatever that means.

Do you seasoned Audi guys think this will resolve the issue.

BYW there was no visible oil leakage.

Thanks in advance
Mick

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stem on number 5 and seal
 

"Mick x" > wrote in message
...
>I am very challenged - although I do try google to resolve my ignorance -
> when it comes to cars and how they work.
>
> I have received my A6 back from the dealer as it was asking for oil, from
> full, after 500 miles cruising on the motorway at a steady 80/85 mph.
>
> Still under warranty, 3.2 FSI V6, nearly 3 yrs old, 40K on the clock and
> fully serviced they have replaced and removed all plugs, fitted a new
> valve
> stem and seal on number 5 - whatever that means.
>
> Do you seasoned Audi guys think this will resolve the issue.
>
> BYW there was no visible oil leakage.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Mick

If there really was no oil leakage, then I can't think of any other place
for so much oiul to go but out the tailpipe meaning that it was getting into
the combustion chambers and being burned. Getting past a valve seal is one
way for that to happen. However, I would think that with your oil
consumption - I assume 500 m/qt - that you would have been noticing some
tell tale bluish smoke out of the exhaust. Was that the case?

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stemon number 5 and seal
 

No sign of smoke that I have noticed.

I have a 600 mile trip to do today so will report back - fingers crossed.


On 11/7/07 21:44, in article , "iws"
> wrote:

> "Mick x" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I am very challenged - although I do try google to resolve my ignorance -
>> when it comes to cars and how they work.
>>
>> I have received my A6 back from the dealer as it was asking for oil, from
>> full, after 500 miles cruising on the motorway at a steady 80/85 mph.
>>
>> Still under warranty, 3.2 FSI V6, nearly 3 yrs old, 40K on the clock and
>> fully serviced they have replaced and removed all plugs, fitted a new
>> valve
>> stem and seal on number 5 - whatever that means.
>>
>> Do you seasoned Audi guys think this will resolve the issue.
>>
>> BYW there was no visible oil leakage.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Mick
>
> If there really was no oil leakage, then I can't think of any other place
> for so much oiul to go but out the tailpipe meaning that it was getting into
> the combustion chambers and being burned. Getting past a valve seal is one
> way for that to happen. However, I would think that with your oil
> consumption - I assume 500 m/qt - that you would have been noticing some
> tell tale bluish smoke out of the exhaust. Was that the case?
>
>

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stem on number 5 and seal
 

"Mick x" > wrote in message
...
> No sign of smoke that I have noticed.
>
> I have a 600 mile trip to do today so will report back - fingers crossed.
>
>
> On 11/7/07 21:44, in article , "iws"
> > wrote:
>
>> "Mick x" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I am very challenged - although I do try google to resolve my
>>> ignorance -
>>> when it comes to cars and how they work.
>>>
>>> I have received my A6 back from the dealer as it was asking for oil,
>>> from
>>> full, after 500 miles cruising on the motorway at a steady 80/85 mph.
>>>
>>> Still under warranty, 3.2 FSI V6, nearly 3 yrs old, 40K on the clock and
>>> fully serviced they have replaced and removed all plugs, fitted a new
>>> valve
>>> stem and seal on number 5 - whatever that means.
>>>
>>> Do you seasoned Audi guys think this will resolve the issue.
>>>
>>> BYW there was no visible oil leakage.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Mick
>>
>> If there really was no oil leakage, then I can't think of any other place
>> for so much oiul to go but out the tailpipe meaning that it was getting
>> into
>> the combustion chambers and being burned. Getting past a valve seal is
>> one
>> way for that to happen. However, I would think that with your oil
>> consumption - I assume 500 m/qt - that you would have been noticing some
>> tell tale bluish smoke out of the exhaust. Was that the case?
>>
>>
If valve stem has been replaced, that means a valve has been replaced as the
stem is forged to the head of the valve. If they suspect that valve stem/
guide clearance is the problem, as it would appear from the components they
have replaced in an attempt to cure the problem, the actual problem, they
suspect, may be wear in the valve guide. It used to be possible to press out
an old guide and press in a new one into the cylinder head. If they really
have changed a valve then they must have removed the cylinder head, in which
case why didn't they change the guide at the same time to totally kill
excessive clearance between the two as a problem. On the other hand a valve
seal fits on the camshaft end of the valve and can be changed without
removal of the cylinder head. Quick fix? Has the valve "stem" been changed?

If you have been consuming excessive amounts of oil that are going down the
exhaust pipe, I would also be mentioning to your stealer the effect of this
upon the catalytic converter, they don't like swallowing too many of the
additives contained in oil, the catalyst becomes "plated" and unable to
perform it's designed function.

There are only a few ways an engine can lose oil.

Past the piston rings.

Into the coolant circuit.

Down the valve guides.

External oil leaks.

It shouldn't be beyond the wit of your stealer to determine which of these
is the case - and then to cure it.

The trick is to get them to concentrate long enough on your problem to
properly address it, they would far sooner be selling new cars.

Kick ass, they're just spinning time until the end of the warranty!

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stem on number 5 and seal
 

On Jul 11, 9:00 pm, Mick x > wrote:
> I am very challenged - although I do try google to resolve my ignorance -
> when it comes to cars and how they work.
>
> I have received my A6 back from the dealer as it was asking for oil, from
> full, after 500 miles cruising on the motorway at a steady 80/85 mph.
>
> Still under warranty, 3.2 FSI V6, nearly 3 yrs old, 40K on the clock and
> fully serviced they have replaced and removed all plugs, fitted a new valve
> stem and seal on number 5 - whatever that means.
>
> Do you seasoned Audi guys think this will resolve the issue.
>
> BYW there was no visible oil leakage.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Mick

I use a school book to keep a record of events such as putting in
oil: the date, how many miles done and about how much etc.
The replies you have had seem to cover most of what may be said.
You could take the car to an independant mechanic who may be able to
see if the cylinder head has been removed. They may not make any
charge for this as it could take but a few minutes. Ask, some are
very helpful.

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stemon number 5 and seal
 

Well the oil issue seems to be resolved, however, on a round trip to
Manchester on the first day of picking it up (had been 10 days with the
garage) it broke down - a worn coil.......

So that's it, is now is fixed and sold.

I am going to the dark side - BMW


On 12/7/07 17:40, in article ,
"Sidney" > wrote:

>
> "Mick x" > wrote in message
> ...
>> No sign of smoke that I have noticed.
>>
>> I have a 600 mile trip to do today so will report back - fingers crossed.
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/07 21:44, in article , "iws"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> "Mick x" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I am very challenged - although I do try google to resolve my
>>>> ignorance -
>>>> when it comes to cars and how they work.
>>>>
>>>> I have received my A6 back from the dealer as it was asking for oil,
>>>> from
>>>> full, after 500 miles cruising on the motorway at a steady 80/85 mph.
>>>>
>>>> Still under warranty, 3.2 FSI V6, nearly 3 yrs old, 40K on the clock and
>>>> fully serviced they have replaced and removed all plugs, fitted a new
>>>> valve
>>>> stem and seal on number 5 - whatever that means.
>>>>
>>>> Do you seasoned Audi guys think this will resolve the issue.
>>>>
>>>> BYW there was no visible oil leakage.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>> Mick
>>>
>>> If there really was no oil leakage, then I can't think of any other place
>>> for so much oiul to go but out the tailpipe meaning that it was getting
>>> into
>>> the combustion chambers and being burned. Getting past a valve seal is
>>> one
>>> way for that to happen. However, I would think that with your oil
>>> consumption - I assume 500 m/qt - that you would have been noticing some
>>> tell tale bluish smoke out of the exhaust. Was that the case?
>>>
>>>
> If valve stem has been replaced, that means a valve has been replaced as the
> stem is forged to the head of the valve. If they suspect that valve stem/
> guide clearance is the problem, as it would appear from the components they
> have replaced in an attempt to cure the problem, the actual problem, they
> suspect, may be wear in the valve guide. It used to be possible to press out
> an old guide and press in a new one into the cylinder head. If they really
> have changed a valve then they must have removed the cylinder head, in which
> case why didn't they change the guide at the same time to totally kill
> excessive clearance between the two as a problem. On the other hand a valve
> seal fits on the camshaft end of the valve and can be changed without
> removal of the cylinder head. Quick fix? Has the valve "stem" been changed?
>
> If you have been consuming excessive amounts of oil that are going down the
> exhaust pipe, I would also be mentioning to your stealer the effect of this
> upon the catalytic converter, they don't like swallowing too many of the
> additives contained in oil, the catalyst becomes "plated" and unable to
> perform it's designed function.
>
> There are only a few ways an engine can lose oil.
>
> Past the piston rings.
>
> Into the coolant circuit.
>
> Down the valve guides.
>
> External oil leaks.
>
> It shouldn't be beyond the wit of your stealer to determine which of these
> is the case - and then to cure it.
>
> The trick is to get them to concentrate long enough on your problem to
> properly address it, they would far sooner be selling new cars.
>
> Kick ass, they're just spinning time until the end of the warranty!
>
>

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stem on number 5 and seal
 

In message >, Mick x
> writes
>Well the oil issue seems to be resolved, however, on a round trip to
>Manchester on the first day of picking it up (had been 10 days with the
>garage) it broke down - a worn coil.......
>
>So that's it, is now is fixed and sold.
>
>I am going to the dark side - BMW

Hmmm - less than 3yrs old A6 3.2V6, problems just fixed (under
warranty?). Perhaps whoever bought it has got a bargain.

--
Dave N

N.B. Mail to nospam is rejected. Reply-To does work.

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stemon number 5 and seal
 

Or a barrow load of problems..........


On 18/7/07 00:58, in article , "Dave N"
> wrote:

> In message >, Mick x
> > writes
>> Well the oil issue seems to be resolved, however, on a round trip to
>> Manchester on the first day of picking it up (had been 10 days with the
>> garage) it broke down - a worn coil.......
>>
>> So that's it, is now is fixed and sold.
>>
>> I am going to the dark side - BMW
>
> Hmmm - less than 3yrs old A6 3.2V6, problems just fixed (under
> warranty?). Perhaps whoever bought it has got a bargain.

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stem on number 5 and seal
 

In message >, Mick x
> writes
>On 18/7/07 00:58, in article , "Dave N"
> wrote:
>> In message >, Mick x
>> > writes
>>> Well the oil issue seems to be resolved, however, on a round trip to
>>> Manchester on the first day of picking it up (had been 10 days with the
>>> garage) it broke down - a worn coil.......
>>>
>>> So that's it, is now is fixed and sold.
>>>
>>> I am going to the dark side - BMW
>>
>> Hmmm - less than 3yrs old A6 3.2V6, problems just fixed (under
>> warranty?). Perhaps whoever bought it has got a bargain.
>
>Or a barrow load of problems..........

Wouldn't that depend partly on how the previous owner had treated it?
<d&rfc> :^)

Seriously, what else gave you problems or you disliked about it?

--
Dave N

N.B. Mail to nospam is rejected. Reply-To does work.

Fix for high oil consumption - New Spark plug, new valve stem on number 5 and seal
 

> Well the oil issue seems to be resolved, however, on a round trip to
> Manchester on the first day of picking it up (had been 10 days with the
> garage) it broke down - a worn coil.......
>
> So that's it, is now is fixed and sold.
>
> I am going to the dark side - BMW

What makes you think they're any better?

The coil pack issue affects more than just VAG cars. It's just that VAG were
the worst affected.