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[email protected] July 27th 20 11:05 AM

how common were automobiles in 1890?
 
The 1889-90 flu pandemic was the first pandemic to spread around the world, thanks to railway and steamships. Were automobiles just for the rich elite way
back then?

Xeno July 27th 20 11:17 AM

how common were automobiles in 1890?
 
On 27/7/20 8:05 pm, wrote:
> The 1889-90 flu pandemic was the first pandemic to spread around the world, thanks to railway and steamships. Were automobiles just for the rich elite way
> back then?
>

They certainly were only for the rich, and they were as scarce as
rocking horse turds. It wasn't until Henry Ford and the Model T that
prices came down to where the middle class at least could afford them.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Steve W.[_6_] July 27th 20 01:49 PM

how common were automobiles in 1890?
 
wrote:
> The 1889-90 flu pandemic was the first pandemic to spread around the
> world, thanks to railway and steamships. Were automobiles just for
> the rich elite way back then?


Yes, although there were many different automobile companies then very
few actually built more than a prototype or two. Most were owned by rich
families or were operated by the inventor themselves. Personal travel
was still the domain of horse and buggy with trolley, trains and buses
being the mass transit carriers.

--
Steve W.

Scott Dorsey July 27th 20 11:27 PM

how common were automobiles in 1890?
 
> wrote:
>The 1889-90 flu pandemic was the first pandemic to spread around the world, thanks to railway and steamships. Were automobiles just for the rich elite way
>back then?


Most cars were built as one-offs either by hobbyists or by companies that
specialized in making custom vehicles for the rich elite.

There are some videos on Youtube of the Morgan automobile plant today. Morgan
is pretty much the only company making cars the way they were made before the
Model T, and they aren't making the drive train themselves so the most
expensive and problematic part is not their problem.

It's kind of like owning a computer in 1975, but even more expensive.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[email protected][_2_] September 15th 20 02:08 AM

how common were automobiles in 1890?
 

> ... Were automobiles just for the rich elite way
> >back then


I've previously reported on a 1902 meeting of the Pittsburgh engineer society, years after your question.
It was awesome and they figured out the future of cars. Then one asks "whose got one?" One guy does,
but he doesn't take it out much 'cuz Burgh roads suck.

Nils K. Hammer

Eli the Bearded September 15th 20 10:53 PM

how common were automobiles in 1890?
 
In rec.autos.tech, > wrote:
>> ... Were automobiles just for the rich elite way back then

> I've previously reported on a 1902 meeting of the Pittsburgh engineer
> society, years after your question.
> It was awesome and they figured out the future of cars. Then one asks
> "whose got one?" One guy does,
> but he doesn't take it out much 'cuz Burgh roads suck.


My understanding is that bike ownership first got people lobbying for
better roads.

https://tedb.ornl.gov/wp-content/upl...38.pdf#page=84

Has a US Governemnt table of car ownership per thousand people starting
with 1900 (one vehicle per 10,000) through 2017 (8366 per 10,000).

The link, and links to all of the other tables, is from he

Transportation Energy Data Book
https://tedb.ornl.gov/data/

Released "August 31, 2020"

Elijah
------
found it with a quick search

[email protected][_2_] October 15th 20 10:12 PM

Battery mount bolts rusted
 
I've got a car that sat in a garage for years, and wanted to swap batteries so I can close the windows and run the blinkers when I move it. I put PB blaster on them, beat on them waited days for it to soak in, but no luck. The only other trick I know is to use a torch, which I don't really want to do on the battery. I suppose I could cut the long thin bolts and have a friend weld them back later.

Any Ideas?

Nils K. Hammer

Scott Dorsey October 15th 20 10:33 PM

Battery mount bolts rusted
 
> wrote:
>I've got a car that sat in a garage for years, and wanted to swap batteries=
> so I can close the windows and run the blinkers when I move it. I put PB b=
>laster on them, beat on them waited days for it to soak in, but no luck. Th=
>e only other trick I know is to use a torch, which I don't really want to d=
>o on the battery. I suppose I could cut the long thin bolts and have a frie=
>nd weld them back later.=20
>
>Any Ideas?


Replacements are available for a couple bucks at the auto parts store. Don't
waste any time trying to save old rusty ones, just use boltcutters on them,
toss the pieces, and replace them. You've already wasted far too much time.
Put never-seize on the threads of the new ones too.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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