Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a car repair should take?
 

I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
number of shop hours they charge for a job.

To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
take that many hours.

For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.

Where can we car owners get that manual online?

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a carrepair should take?
 

Frank S wrote:
> I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
> number of shop hours they charge for a job.
>
> To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
> take that many hours.
>
> For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
> other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
> that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.
>
> Where can we car owners get that manual online?
>

You might try:
http://www.napaautocare.com/Estimato...r p_zc=72210#

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a carrepair should take?
 

On 12/10/2017 1:44 PM, Ken wrote:
> Frank S wrote:
>> I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
>> number of shop hours they charge for a job.
>>
>> To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
>> take that many hours.
>>
>> For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
>> other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
>> that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.
>>
>> Where can we car owners get that manual online?
>>
>
> You might try:
> http://www.napaautocare.com/Estimato...r p_zc=72210#
>

Try Chilton manuals
, Used to be our source waybackwhen.

Rene

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a carrepair should take?
 

On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-6, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> On 12/10/2017 1:44 PM, Ken wrote:
> > Frank S wrote:
> >> I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
> >> number of shop hours they charge for a job.
> >>
> >> To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
> >> take that many hours.
> >>
> >> For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
> >> other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
> >> that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.
> >>
> >> Where can we car owners get that manual online?
> >>
> >
> > You might try:
> > http://www.napaautocare.com/Estimato...r p_zc=72210#
> >
>
> Try Chilton manuals
> , Used to be our source waybackwhen.
>
> Rene

Haynes (paper) manuals are good too, for looking up how to do repairs on your vehicles. (you might find them online too) Some auto parts stores sell them. If they don't have what you want ask them if they can/will order it for you. I have done that before at an O'Reilly's auto parts store. Haynes and Chilton manuals for my 1983 Dodge van.

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a carrepair should take?
 

On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 2:05:37 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-6, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> > On 12/10/2017 1:44 PM, Ken wrote:
> > > Frank S wrote:
> > >> I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
> > >> number of shop hours they charge for a job.
> > >>
> > >> To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
> > >> take that many hours.
> > >>
> > >> For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
> > >> other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
> > >> that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.
> > >>
> > >> Where can we car owners get that manual online?
> > >>
> > >
> > > You might try:
> > > http://www.napaautocare.com/Estimato...r p_zc=72210#
> > >
> >
> > Try Chilton manuals
> > , Used to be our source waybackwhen.
> >
> > Rene
>
> Haynes (paper) manuals are good too, for looking up how to do repairs on your vehicles. (you might find them online too) Some auto parts stores sell them. If they don't have what you want ask them if they can/will order it for you. I have done that before at an O'Reilly's auto parts store. Haynes and Chilton manuals for my 1983 Dodge van.

https://haynes.com/en-us/car-manuals ...Yer Bold, Mein Heir!

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a carrepair should take?
 

On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 2:10:06 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 2:05:37 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-6, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> > > On 12/10/2017 1:44 PM, Ken wrote:
> > > > Frank S wrote:
> > > >> I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
> > > >> number of shop hours they charge for a job.
> > > >>
> > > >> To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
> > > >> take that many hours.
> > > >>
> > > >> For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
> > > >> other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
> > > >> that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.
> > > >>
> > > >> Where can we car owners get that manual online?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > You might try:
> > > > http://www.napaautocare.com/Estimato...r p_zc=72210#
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try Chilton manuals
> > > , Used to be our source waybackwhen.
> > >
> > > Rene
> >
> > Haynes (paper) manuals are good too, for looking up how to do repairs on your vehicles. (you might find them online too) Some auto parts stores sell them. If they don't have what you want ask them if they can/will order it for you. I have done that before at an O'Reilly's auto parts store. Haynes and Chilton manuals for my 1983 Dodge van.
>
> https://haynes.com/en-us/car-manuals ...Yer Bold, Mein Heir!

I hate to but in again, but I just cant help it, chiltondiymanuals.com ...Perhaps Clymer manuals too. They are all Real Good.

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a car repair should take?
 

"Frank S" > wrote

|I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
| number of shop hours they charge for a job.
|
Please don't add Windows 7 to a completely
irrelevant post. You've addressed 3 groups and only
one has any connection to your question.

| To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
| take that many hours.
|
| For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
| other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
| that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.
|
| Where can we car owners get that manual online?

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a car repair should take?
 

Frank S > wrote:
>I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
>number of shop hours they charge for a job.

It's published by Chilton's. It costs money. You can probably find it
at your local library if you have a good public library with a good set
of Chilton's. If you ask nicely, your mechanic might let you look at it.

>To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
>take that many hours.

Not everybody does. Some do. And then there is that car with the rust
problem where every job takes twice as long as the book says.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a car repair should take?
 

In article >,
says...
>
> I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
> number of shop hours they charge for a job.
>
> To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
> take that many hours.
>
> For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
> other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
> that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.
>
> Where can we car owners get that manual online?

I'd be surprised if any such page exists that would/could remain valid
for entire country. Too much "local" pressures etc.

What I dislike about their fixed cost repair arrangements is that if it
doesn't take that long we are giving them money for nothing but if it
takes longer you can be damn sure it's tacked onto the bill. And Yes I'm
sure if there's three separate repairs that they charge you for three
hours yet it's done in two saves you nothing but does put money in their
pocket for nothing.

Next new car I buy will be partially determined by my negotiating legal
requirement by them about markup on parts (100% no way), cost of repair
and labor. they pay the mechanic approx. $25 Hr yet charges over $125
locally here. We are paying so management can drive a free car and owner
can generate equity in his company. neither of which makes the car any
better, e.g. last longer with fewer repairs required during it's
lifespan, for me.

Work at a dealer, you are not welcome in my house.

Is there a database online for the number of shop hours a carrepair should take?
 

On 12/10/2017 5:17 PM, pjp wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> I was told that there is a manual auto repair shops look up to find the
>> number of shop hours they charge for a job.
>>
>> To be fair, I'm told they all charge that many hours even if it doesn't
>> take that many hours.
>>
>> For example if three jobs are done, and even if they associate with each
>> other, they just add up the shop hours and then charge by the $200/hour
>> that the local shops all seem to charge for their shop rate.
>>
>> Where can we car owners get that manual online?
>
> I'd be surprised if any such page exists that would/could remain valid
> for entire country. Too much "local" pressures etc.
>
> What I dislike about their fixed cost repair arrangements is that if it
> doesn't take that long we are giving them money for nothing but if it
> takes longer you can be damn sure it's tacked onto the bill. And Yes I'm
> sure if there's three separate repairs that they charge you for three
> hours yet it's done in two saves you nothing but does put money in their
> pocket for nothing.
>
> Next new car I buy will be partially determined by my negotiating legal
> requirement by them about markup on parts (100% no way), cost of repair
> and labor. they pay the mechanic approx. $25 Hr yet charges over $125
> locally here. We are paying so management can drive a free car and owner
> can generate equity in his company. neither of which makes the car any
> better, e.g. last longer with fewer repairs required during it's
> lifespan, for me.
>
> Work at a dealer, you are not welcome in my house.
>

Besides the mechanic's pay rate, add in employer matching
taxes, fees, licenses, inspections, insurance, rent,
property tax, supplies, fixtures, advertising and so on.

Also, rate books show expected typical time for the job.
Your local shop multiplies that time estimate by their
billing rate, that is, Chilton's doesn't express a value for
dollars, just time.

You may well be overcharged sometimes, but mechanic's pay is
hardly the biggest part of shop expense.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971