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toyota1 December 18th 04 08:13 PM

Im surprised that you are a chrysler tech and havent seen any chains or
2.7s fail, the local chrysler dealer here says they do 3 to 4 per month--
timing chains or engine replacements due to sludge or lower end failures--
must not be too common yet in your area. I looked up intrepids on the local
auto trader and found 12 listed with blown 2.7l engines.


maxpower December 18th 04 10:17 PM

yup, being doing it for Chrysler for 26 yrs, You will find that different
zones have different problems, If i had to guess i would say there are more
of the problems you are talking about in the colder climate areas. and i was
still told that most of it was the improper viscosity oil and lack of
maintenance
"toyota1" > wrote in message
lkaboutautos.com...
> Im surprised that you are a chrysler tech and havent seen any chains or
> 2.7s fail, the local chrysler dealer here says they do 3 to 4 per month--
> timing chains or engine replacements due to sludge or lower end failures--
> must not be too common yet in your area. I looked up intrepids on the

local
> auto trader and found 12 listed with blown 2.7l engines.
>




maxpower December 18th 04 10:17 PM

yup, being doing it for Chrysler for 26 yrs, You will find that different
zones have different problems, If i had to guess i would say there are more
of the problems you are talking about in the colder climate areas. and i was
still told that most of it was the improper viscosity oil and lack of
maintenance
"toyota1" > wrote in message
lkaboutautos.com...
> Im surprised that you are a chrysler tech and havent seen any chains or
> 2.7s fail, the local chrysler dealer here says they do 3 to 4 per month--
> timing chains or engine replacements due to sludge or lower end failures--
> must not be too common yet in your area. I looked up intrepids on the

local
> auto trader and found 12 listed with blown 2.7l engines.
>




[email protected] December 19th 04 05:17 AM

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:52:15 -0700, "Larry Crites"
> wrote:

>I don't have sludging problems. Maybe my oil, filter and maintenance
>combinations work. I don't use Pennzoil. Here's one oil that creates sludge.
>I've seen it sludge up rebuilt engines in no time. I just can't bring myself
>to buy a foreign manufacturer's vehicle.
>
>Larry
>Unlock the Universe


For me, that "foreign manufacturer" builts Corollas only a few miles
from my home, and many people in my town make their living there.
Another major "foreign manufacturer" (Honda) builds vehicles just over
100km away in Aliston Ont - and there are a significant number of jobs
in our area supplying parts etc for that plant as well.

Then there is tha "German" company, that builds cars in Bramalea, also
within 100km of here, as well as in Windor, Belvedere Ind., Mexico,
and at least a dozen other places - the company formerly known as
Chrysler.
>
>"toyota1" > wrote in message
alkaboutautos.com...
>| larry, the problem with the 2.7 is that the oil pickup and passages in the
>| cylinder heads are too small and it causes a large amount of sludge to
>| form, thus reducing the oil flow to the top end, and damaging timing chain
>| and valve train. as these are an interference engine, if the timing chain
>| breaks, pistons hit valves, and so on.. ive seen 2.7s with 40k miles on up
>| to 120k miles fail. it all depends on the maintenance of the vehicle.
>sorry
>| you feel that way about toyotas, but my truck with 200k miles and original
>| engine, etc, is much more impressive than my dodge intrepid 2.7 that
>| failed with 45k miles on it, and my dodge truck (used to have) that the
>| transmission failed at 70k, and both had had oil changes done every 4k
>| miles since new, trans fluid flush every 25k. it now has a 3.2 with almost
>| 20k miles and is running perfectly.
>|
>



[email protected] December 19th 04 05:17 AM

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:52:15 -0700, "Larry Crites"
> wrote:

>I don't have sludging problems. Maybe my oil, filter and maintenance
>combinations work. I don't use Pennzoil. Here's one oil that creates sludge.
>I've seen it sludge up rebuilt engines in no time. I just can't bring myself
>to buy a foreign manufacturer's vehicle.
>
>Larry
>Unlock the Universe


For me, that "foreign manufacturer" builts Corollas only a few miles
from my home, and many people in my town make their living there.
Another major "foreign manufacturer" (Honda) builds vehicles just over
100km away in Aliston Ont - and there are a significant number of jobs
in our area supplying parts etc for that plant as well.

Then there is tha "German" company, that builds cars in Bramalea, also
within 100km of here, as well as in Windor, Belvedere Ind., Mexico,
and at least a dozen other places - the company formerly known as
Chrysler.
>
>"toyota1" > wrote in message
alkaboutautos.com...
>| larry, the problem with the 2.7 is that the oil pickup and passages in the
>| cylinder heads are too small and it causes a large amount of sludge to
>| form, thus reducing the oil flow to the top end, and damaging timing chain
>| and valve train. as these are an interference engine, if the timing chain
>| breaks, pistons hit valves, and so on.. ive seen 2.7s with 40k miles on up
>| to 120k miles fail. it all depends on the maintenance of the vehicle.
>sorry
>| you feel that way about toyotas, but my truck with 200k miles and original
>| engine, etc, is much more impressive than my dodge intrepid 2.7 that
>| failed with 45k miles on it, and my dodge truck (used to have) that the
>| transmission failed at 70k, and both had had oil changes done every 4k
>| miles since new, trans fluid flush every 25k. it now has a 3.2 with almost
>| 20k miles and is running perfectly.
>|
>



Larry Crites December 19th 04 07:44 PM

Yes, there are jobs here for "our" people, and their money comes back into
their community. But where do the corporate profits go that pays the big
officer's salaries? There's still a Pentastar in Highland Park. I know,
there is no "American" auto manufacturer anymore, with all the imported
parts, assembly across our border, etc. But, at least the assembly portion
is North American. Besides, I like Canada. Has lots of pretty areas. A lot
of the people are nice, too.

Larry
Unlock the Universe

> wrote in message
...
|
| For me, that "foreign manufacturer" builts Corollas only a few miles
| from my home, and many people in my town make their living there.
| Another major "foreign manufacturer" (Honda) builds vehicles just over
| 100km away in Aliston Ont - and there are a significant number of jobs
| in our area supplying parts etc for that plant as well.
|
| Then there is tha "German" company, that builds cars in Bramalea, also
| within 100km of here, as well as in Windor, Belvedere Ind., Mexico,
| and at least a dozen other places - the company formerly known as
| Chrysler.



Larry Crites December 19th 04 07:44 PM

Yes, there are jobs here for "our" people, and their money comes back into
their community. But where do the corporate profits go that pays the big
officer's salaries? There's still a Pentastar in Highland Park. I know,
there is no "American" auto manufacturer anymore, with all the imported
parts, assembly across our border, etc. But, at least the assembly portion
is North American. Besides, I like Canada. Has lots of pretty areas. A lot
of the people are nice, too.

Larry
Unlock the Universe

> wrote in message
...
|
| For me, that "foreign manufacturer" builts Corollas only a few miles
| from my home, and many people in my town make their living there.
| Another major "foreign manufacturer" (Honda) builds vehicles just over
| 100km away in Aliston Ont - and there are a significant number of jobs
| in our area supplying parts etc for that plant as well.
|
| Then there is tha "German" company, that builds cars in Bramalea, also
| within 100km of here, as well as in Windor, Belvedere Ind., Mexico,
| and at least a dozen other places - the company formerly known as
| Chrysler.



toyota1 December 23rd 04 06:49 PM

The brand new toyota tacoma that i bought had a sticker on it that listed
what percent of the vehicle had been assembled here and what had been done
in japan-- it was 25% japan, 75% usa. there were 4-runners there that were
90% usa, so the "foreign" auto manufacturers are constructing or making
parts for overseas and assemblitng the vehicles here just as much as the
american automakers are-- + ford owns 2 "foreign" manufacturers, and
chrysler owns at least 1, and has for a long time, and chryslers real
headquarters are in Germany, just as Toyotas' headquarters are in japan==
last i new, dieter ziechte, ceo of chrysler, got a 17million dollar bonus
last year, and he lives in germany....


toyota1 December 23rd 04 06:49 PM

The brand new toyota tacoma that i bought had a sticker on it that listed
what percent of the vehicle had been assembled here and what had been done
in japan-- it was 25% japan, 75% usa. there were 4-runners there that were
90% usa, so the "foreign" auto manufacturers are constructing or making
parts for overseas and assemblitng the vehicles here just as much as the
american automakers are-- + ford owns 2 "foreign" manufacturers, and
chrysler owns at least 1, and has for a long time, and chryslers real
headquarters are in Germany, just as Toyotas' headquarters are in japan==
last i new, dieter ziechte, ceo of chrysler, got a 17million dollar bonus
last year, and he lives in germany....


bigdan4712 December 29th 04 06:23 AM

I just purchased a 98 Dodge Intrepid, and my engine blew up in it. It only
had 83k on it, and i pulled out of work only to hear major rattling and
smoking of the engine when i got home. And the sad thing was, I changed
the oil once, and i put over 3 quarts of oil back into it before the
engine blew up. Luckily, I had a warranty on it, but now my dealer
swindled me out of $500 and lied to me about the warranty company. Im in
litigations with him now. What a piece of dog turd. I never even got to
drive for about 2000 miles. Crap. Ill never buy a dodge again.



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