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virig[_2_] August 2nd 08 09:36 AM

Converting water to powerful hydrogen fuel called HHO
 
Water fueled cars are a reality and many people are using this
technology to save money and improve the environment.
http://carwithwater.googlepages.com/...es_using_water

Theodore Gasper August 5th 08 11:41 AM

Converting water to powerful hydrogen fuel called HHO
 
Does water really work for fuel ? I can't see how this would work.


Tom[_2_] August 6th 08 12:35 AM

Converting water to powerful hydrogen fuel called HHO
 
no.
but there are plenty of people out there that will tell you how to make it
work for only $49.95.
"Theodore Gasper" > wrote in message
...
> Does water really work for fuel ? I can't see how this would work.
>




Lon August 7th 08 02:57 AM

Converting water to powerful hydrogen fuel called HHO
 
Theodore Gasper wrote:
> Does water really work for fuel ? I can't see how this would work.
>

You have to rethink the problem. Under some conditions, say not found
in an automotive engine, water will break down into oxygen and hydrogen.
Aint gonna happen at anything resembling temperatures in an IC engine.

You can also dump ordinary sodium hydroxide in water and aluminum and
get hydrogen. Somewhat expensive.

You can also electrolyze water to oxy and hydrogen, but the trick is to
use less energy than you get when you combine them again. Aint gonna
happen either.

There are catalysts that can break steam and produce hydrogen at
reasonable temperatures. The trick there is again the efficiency
problem, you use more energy than you can get back.


Lon "thermodynamics. It isn't just a good idea, its the law" Stowell


moe greenback August 15th 08 08:44 PM

Converting water to powerful hydrogen fuel called HHO
 
Yea. It's called a steam engine.


[email protected] August 25th 08 07:54 PM

Converting water to powerful hydrogen fuel called HHO
 
On Aug 15, 3:44*pm, (moe greenback) wrote:
> Yea. It's called a steam engine.


I love these types of message threads. They just keep popping up over
and over... Perpetual energy doesn't exist. It takes energy to make
energy and we have yet to find a stockpile of dilithium crystals ;^)

We've accepted since the dawn of mankind is a great amount of
inefficiency because we've historically had an overabundance of
resources -- or so we thought.

The key to sustainability is to harness as much energy we can from a
renewable resource (ie hydro, wind, solar, etc) to offset as much
inefficiency, and working toward better efficiency. Unfortunately,
there isn't much we can do in a vehicle besides drafting behind a
semi. The concept of fuel cells is good, but the total cost of
ownership isn't a lot less than a IC vehicle when you take everything
into consideration.



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