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Ohderii_Cruiser November 7th 19 12:46 AM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads and
rotors at the best price?

It's making noises when I brake like scraping metal but very high pitched.

What's the right brand and model number for the pads & rotors?

Xeno November 7th 19 05:19 AM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
On 7/11/19 11:46 am, Ohderii_Cruiser wrote:
> 2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads and
> rotors at the best price?
>
> It's making noises when I brake like scraping metal but very high pitched.


Sounds like it is down to the wear indicators.
>
> What's the right brand and model number for the pads & rotors?


Run along to the parts supply house with all the relevant vehicle ID
information from the ID plate and they should be able to supply you with
the correct parts for that car. The information you have supplied here
is insufficient for anyone to provide you with the answers you seek.


--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Ohderii_Cruiser November 7th 19 09:25 AM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
Xeno > suggested:\
> Run along to the parts supply house with all the relevant vehicle ID
> information from the ID plate and they should be able to supply you with
> the correct parts for that car. The information you have supplied here
> is insufficient for anyone to provide you with the answers you seek.


I did that already and they don't know the friction codes.

Xeno November 7th 19 11:30 AM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
On 7/11/19 8:25 pm, Ohderii_Cruiser wrote:
> Xeno > suggested:\
>> Run along to the parts supply house with all the relevant vehicle ID
>> information from the ID plate and they should be able to supply you
>> with the correct parts for that car. The information you have supplied
>> here is insufficient for anyone to provide you with the answers you seek.

>
> I did that already and they don't know the friction codes.


Tried the local Toyota dealer?

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Ohderii_Cruiser November 7th 19 12:04 PM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
Xeno > suggested:\
>> I did that already and they don't know the friction codes.

>
> Tried the local Toyota dealer?


It's the first place I tried but they're the dumbest of all.
They don't even know what it means to have a friction code.

I always reasoned the dealer is the dumbest of the parts stores.
Because nobody ever asks them for a "parts choice".
They only have one part. The OEM part.
The friction code isn't something they even THINK about.
So they're clueless.

I tried to explain it to them but they asked "why do you care"?

If they can't figure out why a cold & hot friction code matters for
friction materials that have only one job, cold and hot friction, then I
can't help them learn as they're too stupid to learn if they don't know the
most basic of the simplest thing.

There's NOTHING more important for friction material.
And yet they don't even know what I'm asking of them.

I asked if they could just show me as I can read the friction code right
off the correct part, but they didn't want to order it just so that I could
look t it.

Parts stores will show me the parts, where I can read the friction code
right off the part, but I wouldn't know if it's the OEM friction code.

As for rotors, I'm pretty sure they all work exactly the same.

Scott Dorsey November 7th 19 01:27 PM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
Ohderii_Cruiser > wrote:
>Xeno > suggested:\
>>> I did that already and they don't know the friction codes.

>>
>> Tried the local Toyota dealer?

>
>It's the first place I tried but they're the dumbest of all.
>They don't even know what it means to have a friction code.


Why do you care? Are you racing a 2004 Camry? Are you running this through
twisty mountains at high speeds where you worry brake fade might be an issue?

If you're worried about the fading of an FE pad then spend the extra money
and buy the FF pad. The friction code has more to do with the kind of
driving you are doing than anything else. Likely the dealer parts are the
cheapest possible EE pads which will be fine if you're just driving to the
supermarket.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Heron[_2_] November 7th 19 01:38 PM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
On 11/6/2019 6:46 PM, Ohderii_Cruiser wrote:
> 2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads and
> rotors at the best price?
>
> It's making noises when I brake like scraping metal but very high pitched.
>
> What's the right brand and model number for the pads & rotors?


Pads
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...brake+pad,1684

Rotors
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/... b,rotor,1896

Ohderii_Cruiser November 7th 19 06:28 PM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
Scott Dorsey > suggested:\
> Why do you care? Are you racing a 2004 Camry? Are you running this through
> twisty mountains at high speeds where you worry brake fade might be an issue?
>
> If you're worried about the fading of an FE pad then spend the extra money
> and buy the FF pad. The friction code has more to do with the kind of
> driving you are doing than anything else. Likely the dealer parts are the
> cheapest possible EE pads which will be fine if you're just driving to the
> supermarket.


I did a bad job of stating the question so I apologize to those who are
sincerely trying to advise me on this 2.4 liter camry le.

You are correct I didn't explain WHY I want to source OE friction ratings.
The reason it matters is that nothing else matters if it's wrong.

The question really is where is the friction code lookup table by vehicle?

For your valid question of why do I care about friction for brake pads.
If the OEM pads are EF, then I can then source any EF pads that fit.
If the OEM pads are GG, then I can then source any GG pads that fit.
If the OEM pads are FF, then I can then source any FF pads that fit.
If the OEM pads are FG, then I can then source any FG pads that fit.
(This goes on for a while so I'll stop there.)

I wouldn't think of sourcing anything other than the OE friction codes.

I saw a RockAuto lookup from another helpful person for CENTRIC 10208280.
I'll call RockAuto to ask them to look at the friction codes.


Ohderii_Cruiser November 9th 19 12:38 AM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
Heron > suggested:\
>> It's making noises when I brake like scraping metal but very high pitched.
>>
>> What's the right brand and model number for the pads & rotors?

>
> Pads
> https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...brake+pad,1684
>
> Rotors
> https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/... b,rotor,1896


Thank you all for your advice and for that all important rockauto pointer.
Without a pointer to a supplier, I was lost.

I found that shipping was a killer with RockAuto so I then tried Carid
which gave me free shipping on the rotors (but shipping was a killer on
easy stuff like oil pan drain bolts so I didn't buy them as the shipping
was more than seven times the cost of the bolt).

I also tried something called "partsgeek" which also had good prices.
I ended up getting the Centric pads and rotors but I still don't know the
friction rating.

Here are the three sites I think are best.
If you have BETTER SITES please help me for the next purchase online!
1. https://www.partsgeek.com
2. https://www.rockauto.com
3. https://www.carid.com (they match rockauto for final price)

I decided to get both the front and rears, pads and slabs and the extra
hardware (four springs and two wear indicators for the fronts).

It's amazing that the most important thing about brake pads is so hard to
find but the prices were less than half (maybe even a quarter) of what they
were at the local parts stores (and about 1/10th the dealer).

It's just amazing that the most important thing about a brake pad is so
hard to find. It's not like a brake pad has a more important job than
friction.

Ohderii_Cruiser November 12th 19 08:43 PM

2004 camry le 4 banger - how do I find the right front brake pads
 
Ohderii_Cruiser > suggested:\It
turns out the friction code is GG for the Centric pads.
Centric 301.09080 stamped CEN 30109080 31AC9101 GG 02 B19
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_02.jpg

Four steel rubberized backing plates came with the 4 front pads.
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_03.jpg

The hardware kit P117.44068 came with 4 holding clips & 2 wear sensors.
http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=20_01548.jpg

Does anyone know why the deep slit in the friction material is there?



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