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Andrew MacPherson March 11th 06 08:55 AM

[OT] F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 

Are Bernie & the gang on drugs? I'd repeat the new rules here, but they
went right over my head when the BBC just ran through them. I really
must learn to pay more attention now that watching F1 requires revision
notes.

Andrew McP... only a part time F1 fan, obviously, otherwise the Bahrain
GP wouldn't have crept up on me like this. Not that the first few races
count anyway. Only the European races count, everyone knows that. ;-)

Darus March 11th 06 02:40 PM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
After watching it this AM, I really like it. A LOT more action than any
format I recall from before.

The short version of the Knockout Format:

Session 1 - Timed session in which all 22 drivers attempt a timed lap.
Bottom 6 drivers are dropped at the end of the session and qual in
P17-P22. No times valid after the session times out.

Session 2 - Timed session same as Session 1. Bottom 6 drivers are
dropped and qual in P11-P16.

Session 3 - Timed session. Teams declare to the FIA what starting fuel
level they are running. This will be the MAX level that they can top
off to after the Qual session. Only other difference is that laps
started before the session times out WILL count.


PowerPost2000 March 11th 06 06:54 PM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
On 11 Mar 2006 06:40:12 -0800, "Darus" > wrote:

>After watching it this AM, I really like it. A LOT more action than any
>format I recall from before.
>
>The short version of the Knockout Format:
>
>Session 1 - Timed session in which all 22 drivers attempt a timed lap.
>Bottom 6 drivers are dropped at the end of the session and qual in
>P17-P22. No times valid after the session times out.
>
>Session 2 - Timed session same as Session 1. Bottom 6 drivers are
>dropped and qual in P11-P16.
>
>Session 3 - Timed session. Teams declare to the FIA what starting fuel
>level they are running. This will be the MAX level that they can top
>off to after the Qual session. Only other difference is that laps
>started before the session times out WILL count.


I missed the start of the show. Are they allowed to change tires in
sessions 1&2?

Darus March 11th 06 07:55 PM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
AFAIK they can change them whenever, up to 7 sets per weekend


nathantw March 11th 06 07:58 PM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
"Darus" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> After watching it this AM, I really like it. A LOT more action than any
> format I recall from before.


I agree with you. It really does make qualifying interesting to watch. It's
been a long time since I actually watched a qualifying round in its
entirety.



Andrew MacPherson March 11th 06 09:14 PM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
(Darus) wrote:

> A LOT more action than any
> format I recall from before.


I watched for a while, got bored, and forgot to turn it back on. I think
the new format might work, but three sessions is pushing the limits a
bit, especially as the big teams aren't going to want to push their cars
any harder than they have to over such a long period.

I think the "who can refuel and when and by how much" thing is an
unnecessary complication as well. Still, I'm looking forward to finding
out if we see much competitive racing in the new F1 cars tomorrow. It
might make Sundays slightly interesting again until the Touring Cars
start up. Now *that's* racing! :-)

Andrew McP



Darus March 12th 06 02:27 AM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
"Pushing the limits a bit"? You're kidding right? MS ran a total of 2
laps in the first segment IIRC and I'll bet Ferrari wasn't the only
team that ran very few laps. The 2nd segments wasn't a lap-fest either
for the Scuderia and maybe another 3-4 in the final segment to take P1.
Sure, it's 10x more than last year, but not so different than the 1
hour qual sessions of years ago. In fact it's a lot better for those
(like me) who attend GP's. Qual sessions were pretty boring last year
at Indy (only to followed up by "other" issues") but this format was
setup for the fans it would seem.

I do agree on the refueling plan as it seems like an afterthought.

Max: "Hmmmm...this new qual plan is good. Anything want to add anything
else?
FIA Lackey: Sure, how about a complex refueling plan, but only for the
Top 10 cars?"
Max: BRILLIANT!

>From reading websites, mags etc and hearing commentary, it sounds like

the FIA wants very different fuel strategies spread through the field.


Andrew MacPherson March 12th 06 06:59 AM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
(Darus) wrote:

> n fact it's a lot better for those
> (like me) who attend GP's.


Qualifying days are about milking fans, and this is designed to try and
make more folk turn up for the first day of the weekend. Fine, F1's a
business after all. But the first two sessions are meaningless, there
for show and to justify the price of entry. One slightly longer session
would be more tactically entertaining, but could be more of a lottery.
Which might be a good thing.

Andrew McP


Bruce Kennewell March 12th 06 09:52 AM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
What a load of "created just for TV" crap!!

BK

"Darus" > wrote in message
oups.com...

> Session 1 - Timed session in which all 22 drivers attempt a timed lap.
> Bottom 6 drivers are dropped at the end of the session and qual in
> P17-P22. No times valid after the session times out.
>
> Session 2 - Timed session same as Session 1. Bottom 6 drivers are
> dropped and qual in P11-P16.
>
> Session 3 - Timed session. Teams declare to the FIA what starting fuel
> level they are running. This will be the MAX level that they can top
> off to after the Qual session. Only other difference is that laps
> started before the session times out WILL count.
>




Darus March 12th 06 03:27 PM

F1 Qualifying... run that past me again
 
Gee....care to fathom who racing is catered to? With the so called
"largest TV audience" in the world, I guess "created for TV" is just
what the doctor ordered. You have a better idea? Lemme guess....the old
12 lap/1 hour session where all the teams hid in the paddock until 10
minutes remained and then went out and exchanged fast times between the
same 4 drivers? Yep, entertaining TV no doubt.



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