Remove the fuel pump on a 1995 VR6
 

I have already removed the large nut/ring from the top of the pump and
I was even able to remove the upper assembly. This is the assembly
that has the float arm attached to it. When I attempt to remove the
pump from the bottom of the tank it just holds tight. I have the
Bentley manual and I am following those directions. The manual says to
turn the pump to the left on the Bayonet connector and remove. I can
get the pump to turn a little back and forth but it definitely will not
come out!

Can someone please let me know if there is some kind of trick or
expalain how this pump is secured to the tank? Thanks!

Background:

The car is a 1995 Passat GLX VR6 Sedan with 150,000 miles on the
odometer. I was driving down the freeway in about 5F outside temp.
The engine suddenly began to hesitate and within about 10 seconds had
completely stopped. Of course I had the car towed into my garage at
home. I briefly believed that the gas line had frozen until I learned
how rare that it is. Now I have completed the checks in the Bentley
manual and determined that the fuel pump motor has simply died. I have
been able to exclude the fuel pump relay and the fuse as being the
cause.

No tricks, but if the fuel and tank are cold it may be a bit harder to
release the pump.

"Mark" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I have already removed the large nut/ring from the top of the pump and
> I was even able to remove the upper assembly. This is the assembly
> that has the float arm attached to it. When I attempt to remove the
> pump from the bottom of the tank it just holds tight. I have the
> Bentley manual and I am following those directions. The manual says to
> turn the pump to the left on the Bayonet connector and remove. I can
> get the pump to turn a little back and forth but it definitely will not
> come out!
>
> Can someone please let me know if there is some kind of trick or
> expalain how this pump is secured to the tank? Thanks!
>
> Background:
>
> The car is a 1995 Passat GLX VR6 Sedan with 150,000 miles on the
> odometer. I was driving down the freeway in about 5F outside temp.
> The engine suddenly began to hesitate and within about 10 seconds had
> completely stopped. Of course I had the car towed into my garage at
> home. I briefly believed that the gas line had frozen until I learned
> how rare that it is. Now I have completed the checks in the Bentley
> manual and determined that the fuel pump motor has simply died. I have
> been able to exclude the fuel pump relay and the fuse as being the
> cause.
>

No tricks, but if the fuel and tank are cold it may be a bit harder to
release the pump.

"Mark" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I have already removed the large nut/ring from the top of the pump and
> I was even able to remove the upper assembly. This is the assembly
> that has the float arm attached to it. When I attempt to remove the
> pump from the bottom of the tank it just holds tight. I have the
> Bentley manual and I am following those directions. The manual says to
> turn the pump to the left on the Bayonet connector and remove. I can
> get the pump to turn a little back and forth but it definitely will not
> come out!
>
> Can someone please let me know if there is some kind of trick or
> expalain how this pump is secured to the tank? Thanks!
>
> Background:
>
> The car is a 1995 Passat GLX VR6 Sedan with 150,000 miles on the
> odometer. I was driving down the freeway in about 5F outside temp.
> The engine suddenly began to hesitate and within about 10 seconds had
> completely stopped. Of course I had the car towed into my garage at
> home. I briefly believed that the gas line had frozen until I learned
> how rare that it is. Now I have completed the checks in the Bentley
> manual and determined that the fuel pump motor has simply died. I have
> been able to exclude the fuel pump relay and the fuse as being the
> cause.
>

The air temperature in the garage was about 50F while I was working but
I suppose the car and fuel may still have been around 40F. Can you say
why you believe the pump could be hard to release at low temperatures?
Is there some close-fitting latch mechanism? I just ordered the new
fuel pump, Pierburg E3000-55290. I noticed there is a model year split
and mine is the earlier model. However the same pump part number is
specified regardless of whether I choose the late model or early model
option on the Overnight Auto Parts website. I hope this pump works!


Woodchuck wrote:
> No tricks, but if the fuel and tank are cold it may be a bit harder
to
> release the pump.
>
> "Mark" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >I have already removed the large nut/ring from the top of the pump
and
> > I was even able to remove the upper assembly. This is the assembly
> > that has the float arm attached to it. When I attempt to remove
the
> > pump from the bottom of the tank it just holds tight. I have the
> > Bentley manual and I am following those directions. The manual
says to
> > turn the pump to the left on the Bayonet connector and remove. I
can
> > get the pump to turn a little back and forth but it definitely will
not
> > come out!
> >
> > Can someone please let me know if there is some kind of trick or
> > expalain how this pump is secured to the tank? Thanks!
> >
> > Background:
> >
> > The car is a 1995 Passat GLX VR6 Sedan with 150,000 miles on the
> > odometer. I was driving down the freeway in about 5F outside temp.
> > The engine suddenly began to hesitate and within about 10 seconds
had
> > completely stopped. Of course I had the car towed into my garage
at
> > home. I briefly believed that the gas line had frozen until I
learned
> > how rare that it is. Now I have completed the checks in the
Bentley
> > manual and determined that the fuel pump motor has simply died. I
have
> > been able to exclude the fuel pump relay and the fuse as being the
> > cause.
> >

The air temperature in the garage was about 50F while I was working but
I suppose the car and fuel may still have been around 40F. Can you say
why you believe the pump could be hard to release at low temperatures?
Is there some close-fitting latch mechanism? I just ordered the new
fuel pump, Pierburg E3000-55290. I noticed there is a model year split
and mine is the earlier model. However the same pump part number is
specified regardless of whether I choose the late model or early model
option on the Overnight Auto Parts website. I hope this pump works!


Woodchuck wrote:
> No tricks, but if the fuel and tank are cold it may be a bit harder
to
> release the pump.
>
> "Mark" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >I have already removed the large nut/ring from the top of the pump
and
> > I was even able to remove the upper assembly. This is the assembly
> > that has the float arm attached to it. When I attempt to remove
the
> > pump from the bottom of the tank it just holds tight. I have the
> > Bentley manual and I am following those directions. The manual
says to
> > turn the pump to the left on the Bayonet connector and remove. I
can
> > get the pump to turn a little back and forth but it definitely will
not
> > come out!
> >
> > Can someone please let me know if there is some kind of trick or
> > expalain how this pump is secured to the tank? Thanks!
> >
> > Background:
> >
> > The car is a 1995 Passat GLX VR6 Sedan with 150,000 miles on the
> > odometer. I was driving down the freeway in about 5F outside temp.
> > The engine suddenly began to hesitate and within about 10 seconds
had
> > completely stopped. Of course I had the car towed into my garage
at
> > home. I briefly believed that the gas line had frozen until I
learned
> > how rare that it is. Now I have completed the checks in the
Bentley
> > manual and determined that the fuel pump motor has simply died. I
have
> > been able to exclude the fuel pump relay and the fuse as being the
> > cause.
> >

It's all made out of plastic and plastic doesn't like to flex when things
are cold.

"Mark" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> The air temperature in the garage was about 50F while I was working but
> I suppose the car and fuel may still have been around 40F. Can you say
> why you believe the pump could be hard to release at low temperatures?
> Is there some close-fitting latch mechanism? I just ordered the new
> fuel pump, Pierburg E3000-55290. I noticed there is a model year split
> and mine is the earlier model. However the same pump part number is
> specified regardless of whether I choose the late model or early model
> option on the Overnight Auto Parts website. I hope this pump works!
>
>
> Woodchuck wrote:
>> No tricks, but if the fuel and tank are cold it may be a bit harder
> to
>> release the pump.
>>
>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >I have already removed the large nut/ring from the top of the pump
> and
>> > I was even able to remove the upper assembly. This is the assembly
>> > that has the float arm attached to it. When I attempt to remove
> the
>> > pump from the bottom of the tank it just holds tight. I have the
>> > Bentley manual and I am following those directions. The manual
> says to
>> > turn the pump to the left on the Bayonet connector and remove. I
> can
>> > get the pump to turn a little back and forth but it definitely will
> not
>> > come out!
>> >
>> > Can someone please let me know if there is some kind of trick or
>> > expalain how this pump is secured to the tank? Thanks!
>> >
>> > Background:
>> >
>> > The car is a 1995 Passat GLX VR6 Sedan with 150,000 miles on the
>> > odometer. I was driving down the freeway in about 5F outside temp.
>> > The engine suddenly began to hesitate and within about 10 seconds
> had
>> > completely stopped. Of course I had the car towed into my garage
> at
>> > home. I briefly believed that the gas line had frozen until I
> learned
>> > how rare that it is. Now I have completed the checks in the
> Bentley
>> > manual and determined that the fuel pump motor has simply died. I
> have
>> > been able to exclude the fuel pump relay and the fuse as being the
>> > cause.
>> >
>

It's all made out of plastic and plastic doesn't like to flex when things
are cold.

"Mark" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> The air temperature in the garage was about 50F while I was working but
> I suppose the car and fuel may still have been around 40F. Can you say
> why you believe the pump could be hard to release at low temperatures?
> Is there some close-fitting latch mechanism? I just ordered the new
> fuel pump, Pierburg E3000-55290. I noticed there is a model year split
> and mine is the earlier model. However the same pump part number is
> specified regardless of whether I choose the late model or early model
> option on the Overnight Auto Parts website. I hope this pump works!
>
>
> Woodchuck wrote:
>> No tricks, but if the fuel and tank are cold it may be a bit harder
> to
>> release the pump.
>>
>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >I have already removed the large nut/ring from the top of the pump
> and
>> > I was even able to remove the upper assembly. This is the assembly
>> > that has the float arm attached to it. When I attempt to remove
> the
>> > pump from the bottom of the tank it just holds tight. I have the
>> > Bentley manual and I am following those directions. The manual
> says to
>> > turn the pump to the left on the Bayonet connector and remove. I
> can
>> > get the pump to turn a little back and forth but it definitely will
> not
>> > come out!
>> >
>> > Can someone please let me know if there is some kind of trick or
>> > expalain how this pump is secured to the tank? Thanks!
>> >
>> > Background:
>> >
>> > The car is a 1995 Passat GLX VR6 Sedan with 150,000 miles on the
>> > odometer. I was driving down the freeway in about 5F outside temp.
>> > The engine suddenly began to hesitate and within about 10 seconds
> had
>> > completely stopped. Of course I had the car towed into my garage
> at
>> > home. I briefly believed that the gas line had frozen until I
> learned
>> > how rare that it is. Now I have completed the checks in the
> Bentley
>> > manual and determined that the fuel pump motor has simply died. I
> have
>> > been able to exclude the fuel pump relay and the fuse as being the
>> > cause.
>> >
>

I still cannot get this pump out! I have the flange nut off and the
assembly with the float off (obviously the black supply and return
lines have been removed from this assembly).

I am staring into the tank at the fuel pump and it appears a little
different to me from the pump that I purchased. The one in the tank
appears to have an assembly within an assembly with some rubber bumpers
between them. Is this an anti-vibration mount that is used to quiet
the pump? Does this entire plastic assembly come out or only the
inner plastic assembly? Are there some steel pieces at the bottom of
the tank that hold onto the bottom of the pump by the screen? Does the
outer plastic assembly that I can see somehow hold the pump in place?
How hard can I pull or twist without breaking something? Someone
please help or I will have to have the car towed (as my wife suggested)
and admit I have failed at this job! I am so close! (for now, it is a
balmy 60F in my garage due to a warm front hitting Wisconsin)

thanks!

I still cannot get this pump out! I have the flange nut off and the
assembly with the float off (obviously the black supply and return
lines have been removed from this assembly).

I am staring into the tank at the fuel pump and it appears a little
different to me from the pump that I purchased. The one in the tank
appears to have an assembly within an assembly with some rubber bumpers
between them. Is this an anti-vibration mount that is used to quiet
the pump? Does this entire plastic assembly come out or only the
inner plastic assembly? Are there some steel pieces at the bottom of
the tank that hold onto the bottom of the pump by the screen? Does the
outer plastic assembly that I can see somehow hold the pump in place?
How hard can I pull or twist without breaking something? Someone
please help or I will have to have the car towed (as my wife suggested)
and admit I have failed at this job! I am so close! (for now, it is a
balmy 60F in my garage due to a warm front hitting Wisconsin)

thanks!

The entire whitish plastic assembly comes out all together. I usually just
put my hand way down there and turn counterclockwise about 10 degrees to
release the pump assembly.


"Mark" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>I still cannot get this pump out! I have the flange nut off and the
> assembly with the float off (obviously the black supply and return
> lines have been removed from this assembly).
>
> I am staring into the tank at the fuel pump and it appears a little
> different to me from the pump that I purchased. The one in the tank
> appears to have an assembly within an assembly with some rubber bumpers
> between them. Is this an anti-vibration mount that is used to quiet
> the pump? Does this entire plastic assembly come out or only the
> inner plastic assembly? Are there some steel pieces at the bottom of
> the tank that hold onto the bottom of the pump by the screen? Does the
> outer plastic assembly that I can see somehow hold the pump in place?
> How hard can I pull or twist without breaking something? Someone
> please help or I will have to have the car towed (as my wife suggested)
> and admit I have failed at this job! I am so close! (for now, it is a
> balmy 60F in my garage due to a warm front hitting Wisconsin)
>
> thanks!
>